The "Original Story" - The Kimba VS Simba Controversy, Disney The Lying King

[JWeinCom]

chakkra said:

JWeinCom said:

You mentioned several things that are flat out false, such as a bird sidekick or Kimba talking to his father in the clouds that didn't happen, and pointed to a shot that was made after the Lion King.  So... your standards for evidence are a bit low. 

As for the rest of what you posted, I actually explained why they fit far better with the idea that Lion King was inspired by Hamlet than that they were inspired by an obscure manga.  I also showed that a lot of these are very common tropes that appear in many different media.

I actually gave reasons why the evidence is insufficient.  Can you do the same?  For instance, let's take Mufassa's death.  I'd say this is far more likely to be inspired Hamlet since it was a case where the main character's uncle killed his father specifically to become King, which is the exact same plot of Hamlet. Considering that it follows the exact plot of Hamlet, which is far more popular and a stated influence, it is far more likely that this element was inspired by Hamlet, and not Kimba.  Why do you think it is more likely that this plot element was inspired by Kimba? 

We would be falling into the same cycle. You gave me your reasons on why you feel the evidences are not valid, and I disagree with those reasons.
The only way we could settle this is in a court but that´s not possible, so I think it is better just to agree to disagree.

Well... I actually explained why it's invalid... if you actually had a response, then I'd be open to changing my position.  That's the purpose of discussion.  But if your only response is "nuh-uh" then yeah, it's pointless.