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Otter on 05 May 2020
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curl-6 said:
Otter said:

Completely different systems, completely different life cycles. There is very little comparison here. By 2017 the PS4 had literally just received major 1st party support like Uncharted, Horizons and the majority of third parties were still releasing games that began developement when the systems were announced.

By now the Switch has had a major release of every single system seller and 1st party IP.

You also ignore the part where I say Switch 2 lives alongside the orginal. Anytime between 2021-2022 would be ideal in terms of hardware spacing, 2021 would be ideal in terms of software support. 

What exactly do you think would happen if Nintendo would release a Switch 2 in 2021, please elaborate? For me their core audience will rush to buy it (their already own a Switch) and use it as as their primry system, meanwhile the more casual audience or late adopters  will buy a $199 Switch for Mario Kart 8, Animal crossing,Smash Bros, 2D mario etc.

See my post above. There's simply no need to rush willy nilly onto the next system when your current one is selling like crack. There's a reason the most successful platforms of all time weren't replaced after 4 years, it's just bad business to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs while it's still laying.

well its actually closer to 5 years then it is 4, remembering the Switch launched in March 2017, not fall.

looking at past hardware is different because cross generation is only 1 gen old (it started with PS4/X1), not only that but if Nintendo could trade some late Wii sales to have had a much healthier follow up generation, I'm sure they would have done it. The goal shouldn't be get as many Switch sales as possible, it should be a 7-10 year vision for how they intend to stay relevant and maintain + increase their current profits. The idea of killing the Switch is based off the old console cycles, we've seen in other spaces that you can support multiple hardware with a shared eco-system. This is uncharted terroritory and I think Switch 2 could literally become the primary hardware for most games next gen (Nintendo would like that Im sure) but it would require them not wait 7 years before releasing the successor, I see it as an opportunity.

They would not loose any software sales, they will only gain hardware revenue and even higher level of software from people who would start to abdandon the system late gen, either due to lack of interest or due to focusing on other platforms PS5/Sx (again we've seen this a lot with Nintendo software).

But I agree they should not rush, but if the Switch 2 is more of the same but with developers given more freedom I wouldn't see it as rushed if launches with Zelda, Metroid etc. Maybe fall 2021 is a tad too early, I said it mainly targeting the release of Zelda BOTW2 because it would be the perfect showcase for the hardware, whilst ensuring current Switch owners don't feel abandoned. Also we will see the remaining wave of PS4/X1 titles, which I think could finally break the curse which has been limiting them in many ways. Nintendo do not need 3rd parties but 3rd parties are an incredible safty net and profit source. Its why Playstation and Xbox sell by default regardless of their fuck ups.  2022 is the latest they should aim for imo. 


But look at it this way, holiday 2021 is 18 months away. 18months ago was October 2018. A lot will happen in that period. Lets see.