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LurkerJ on 03 May 2020
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Pemalite said:

I am of the personal belief that anyone who is willing to give up their life to save others gets to take a degree of moral superiority.
Be it Military, Police Officers or the like. - They have proven they are moral.

You don't know what most of us do for a living, for all you know, and by your standards, I am entitled to to the same degree of moral superiority. Just because you're happy sharing details about yourself online doesn't make you the only one with one of those professions. 

Either way, I can and will judge other peoples moralities, I will judge the good and bad deeds someone has done and I will draw "lines" so to speak, religion has been doing it for thousands of years... And so will I. You should be aware of what I am like as a user, I don't mince words to save face, I don't care, I will say how I think it is.

You want to do what baseless ridiculous laughable religions have done? Is the standard you really want to live up to, one set by religions? lol


So if someone is willing to place the economy over life, I will judge them for it and I will judge them harshly for it... And I am of the belief that they lack empathy and morality because of it, money is a material object, life is not, life is far more valuable.

The two are connected, health, life-span, quality of life are all connected to economy. I am not gonna bother explaining the connections because I know you're being intellectually dishonest by separating the two the you're doing. I refuse to believe you're that dense. 

Someones health, education and so forth doesn't need to be forfeit due to lock down measures,

I am doing a diploma with lectures given to me on a weekly basis, digitally, my education hasn't halted. Teachers are teaching their students over the internet.

My education isn't hampered either, and I welcome the change, I actually believe this is a chance to stick a fork in traditional education because I have always advocated against it. I learned a lot more on my own than I did in school, if anything schools hindered me. so I'll give you this one.  


Businesses are operating over the internet, taking orders, doing deliveries, they changed their business models... For example my local movie theater shut down, so the owners started to deliver DVD/Blu-Ray movies with popcorn, drinks and chocolate and other stuff and are turning a profit.

Is it an ideal situation? Hell no. But neither are hundreds of thousands of people including children and babies that end up dead... And some of the people that survive the disease may have to endure with life-long health implications that may impact their ability to contribute to the economy and self life achievements and become a burden on the health care system.

It's the only metric that's driving your mindset, I get it, but others see it differently. I am not gonna go through this again.

Either way... YOU said that me being "charitable" isn't an achievement because we live in the "first world". - And told me to question the extent I go out of my way to assist others because people in the world are still starving to death... You even went out of your way to assert that I don't do enough. So with the list I provided prior... Am I doing enough? Or are you just trying to save face now?

Here is the list again:

Nope, you're not doing enough. It seems like you're a responder, so you get paid for what you do, and it happens to include noble acts, which is fine, but not really that heroic.

You still could do a lot more, for example, why do you spend so much money on electricity hungry PC components when kids in Africa are dying of famine? Don't be selfish, give up your video games passion and stick to expenseless hobbies, send the money you save by doing so to Africa, it can save a lot of lives there. 

Also, as someone who thinks so highly of his country and trust his politicians so much and love to brag about what you have compared to the rest of the world... why have you not taken the streets to protest the arm deals your country as made with monstrous regimes that have led to disastrous wars? In this particular case, a war that literally led to years long hunger and malnutrition:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/08/australias-arms-deals-ignoring-gross-violations-of-human-rights-ex-defence-official-says

Go out, protest, tell your people that a lot of what they enjoy is paid for by money gain from selling weapons to dictators engaging in a war that led to an outbreak of cholera that led to thousands dying. And also educate them that they're part of an axis that unforgivable waged the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's very easy to make fun of the USA internal policies when you selectively ignore your own country's external policies. 

So nope, overall, you haven't done enough and failed my morality test, sorry. 

LurkerJ said:

Nope, my premise is that people who take into considerations the downsides of lockdows and believe that there should be more to policy making than just "preventing death by this one communicable disease" aren't assholes, and they have a point, and they should be given the benefit of the doubt. And that those who draw lines to define morality using the "COVID19 deaths" stick should spare us because it's hypocritical to pick that one crisis that they happen to care about, and ignore the rest of the crises that have plagued that modern word for decades. 

That's a false equivalency. You don't know what people do in their private or professional lives to assert that they do nothing in other "crises".

It's not a secret that most of us don't devote enough attention to other people and the rest of the world, no would deny that, the world wouldn't like it is today if most of us give 2 shits. I can't believe that too many found this fact conversational. What the hell? It's fine people, I am not maligning you, it's just a reminder that we are animals.


Don't be selfish. Just stay at home... Protect your self, your friends, your family and those who are vulnerable.

That's your problem, really. It's the fact that you have this perceived notion that you care more because we have different mentalities. And it never occurs to you that I have people of all ages to care for. But hey...