Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

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Nautilus said:

Conina said:

You wanna defend his bollocks "0.001%"?

And it is 157k so far with only 2.3 million known cases. Without these lockdowns / "social distancing" there would already be much more and without trying to slow down the spreading, numbers would rise exponentially.

As long as the health system can manage the cases, mortality rate can be kept down. F.e. here in Germany we have been that lucky so far, "only" every 20th of the closed cases ended in death:

But without trying to slow down the spreading virus (or not doing enough to slow down the spreading), the number of serious/critical cases will soon be bigger than the number of patients which can be treated at the same time.

And when that happens, doctors and nurses will have to "triage" (decide who gets treated and who doesn't get treated)... and then the mortality rate will go way up. Therefore it is in everyones interest to avoid that horror scenario by flattening the curve.

The 0,001% was just an example of how low these numbers are compared to any other disease and problem the world have, as the numbers I gave you showed.I'm not trying to justify anything.I don't have to.We nevber had lockdown for any of these disease that are arguably far more deadly and serious, and humanity is just fine.I don't need to downplay the lockdown, reality is doing that for me.

What other diseases?

Swine Flu? Yeah, that killed more people - but also had 2 years to do so, while Covid only had 3.5 months so far. Similar thing for other diseases that killed more people, they simply had more much time than Covid had just yet.

Just have a look at this video from April 2nd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz1bGzYdRdk

The numbers are a bit outdated by now, but as you can clearly see, Covid-19 is taking off much faster than other diseases. Covid-19 is killing more persons in the US alone each day than the 2009-2010 Swine Flu outbreak did worldwide at it's peak. Influenza kills about 500k a year, but again, it has an entire year to work with, resulting in a median rate of less than 1400 deaths per day worldwide. It also says that at the then-current rate, it would take until May 23rd to become the most deadly disease of this century. But since the rate is accelerating, we're already more than halfway there, and will surpass the 2009-2010 Swine Flu epidemic by end of this month already.

And about other deaths causes, how about this comparison that person made a week later? It compares the weekly numbers to other causes of deaths, like some diseases, but also car accidents, D-Day and the atomic bombing of Nagasaki. And keep in mind that's just until April 9, the rate is quite a bit higher by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_wZQ8fVIwQ

So no, your argument that any of these diseases was more serious is busted. We didn't have an epidemic like this one in 100 years and the spanish flu, and it's not even close.