Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Bofferbrauer2]

NightlyPoe said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Please show me where, because I don't see anything like that yet.

Keep also in mind that it only really took off 2 weeks ago, while it started much earlier in Europe. The curve is flattening already across Europe, so the state of European countries right now is about where the US will be in 2-3 weeks, give or take.

Also, just look at that trendline:

Once those cases become serious cases, then the system will collapse. It's already doing so in NY right now (which has almost as many cases as all of Spain and more than Italy), and will go downhill from there.

Interesting that you've shifted put the burden of proof on me, even though I was the one asking for evidence of someone else's comment.  Still, I'll answer.

Just look at some of the headlines and the numbers.  The healthcare system in several countries, like Italy, Spain, and to a lesser degree, France and UK, are having a lot more trouble keeping up.  Their mortality rate is like 3-4 times what it is in the United States.

Keep also in mind that it only really took off 2 weeks ago, while it started much earlier in Europe. The curve is flattening already across Europe, so the state of European countries right now is about where the US will be in 2-3 weeks, give or take.

Story was the same a couple weeks ago.  This isn't new to today.

Once those cases become serious cases, then the system will collapse. It's already doing so in NY right now (which has almost as many cases as all of Spain and more than Italy), and will go downhill from there.

Actually, New York is holding up pretty well.  The mortality rate there is only a little higher than the rest of the country.  I was afraid things would get ugly, but so far, it's hopeful.

And pointing to a possible future doesn't make sense for the purposes of what we're currently discussing.  Someone said the virus showed the United States healthcare system wasn't the best.  Some theoretical avalanche of cases in the future that would theoretically break the system doesn't advance the accuracy of that statement in the slightest.

bolded: That's because the US are 2-3 weeks behind. Coronavirus takes a while before it gets dangerous, the first 1-2 weeks it feels like a cough and only then it rapidly deteriorates. The US are at a point where most are still not deteriorated yet.

italic: It ain't new, but the virus only got a real hold in the US weeks after Europe. Take a look again at the curve and you'll see that European countries took off much earlier. That's why the US are weeks behind Europe in that regard, just compare the US to Italy in that regard. In Europe, the worst has passed, the number of new cases continues to drop. Not so for the US, for which the worst is yet to come, especially since there's no lockdown in many regions yet.

Also, I didn't shift the burden to you, you made a claim but didn't give any proof along with it, and I was asking for those proofs. Nice try shifting the burden of proof to me, but it's your duty if you claim something.