SvennoJ said:
vivster said:
Obesity isn't a health issue, it's a lifestyle choice. In fact, obese people are actually healthier than fit people because they can fit a lot more health in them than those string bean fat shamers.
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For some, not for all. It's like saying cancer is a lifestyle choice.
Obesity is generally not healthy, obesity starts at a bmi of 30 and over. There are exceptions, sumo wrestlers have a BMI of 56, eat 5,000 calories a day and train all day, until they don't:
Japanese sumo wrestlers are often used as a popular example of metabolically healthy obese. They are morbidly obese and yet due to their high level of activity have very little visceral fat accumulation, tons of muscle mass, and a healthy metabolic profile—until they stop training, that is. Once their activity drops off, so does their fitness, and they begin to accumulate excess fat in deleterious locations, matched by a worsening in their metabolic profile.
It seems one in 3 obese people are still healthy, but still die earlier like other obese people. But dying earlier can be a lifestyle choice as well. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/can-you-be-both-obese-and-healthy/
But true, string bean fat shamers are miserable people! Underweight people suffer more in the immune system as well. Yet also being underweight is not always a lifestyle choice!
It would be better if people stopped caring about what other people look like.
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There is a different between "morbidly obese", obese and overweight. The latter two can be healthy if, as in the sumo example, is being burnt or used or managed in some way.
It's when the threshold leads to an excess buildup of visceral fat that things go wrong. Someone pudgy can be healthier than a fairly normal person. Someone morbidly obese couldn't possibly be.