Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
I'd like to see those cavemen's proofs. I can't imagine they would've suggested it to simply be "black magic".
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Uh... What?
You might be a little confused or lost here, not sure.
  
    
  
    
EricHiggin said:
There never used to be scientific evidence that gravity existed either. Did gravity only come about more recently? Something was going on behind the scenes. Better figure out how to prove what it is? How long do we wait to prove something before we give up? Still waiting on undeniable proof of exactly how the universe came into being. Guess that means the universe doesn't exist, or is irrelevant?
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The difference is... No one was proclaiming that gravity existed without a doubt before any evidence existed.
That is the difference between science and religion.
Someone rather took note of a specific set of cause and effect and went on to investigate using the scientific method.
It's a pretty basic concept and has proven to work time and again.
EricHiggin said:
Is Independence Day possible though? Seems like plenty of people aren't against other forms of intelligent life in the universe. If they do exist, could they be as powerful and hostile? Something we don't know for sure and can't say for certain as of now? Sounds sort of like...
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Now you are delving into conspiracy theories... Then again, Religion can possibly fall into conspiracy theories as well.
Some individuals do tend to have a predisposition for conspiracy theories anyway I guess.
EricHiggin said:
If it's important to know that this entertainment is fictional, why isn't that made more clear to kids? Why do we allow kids to play fight based on these idea's and sometimes even hurt each other? Why do we sometimes use this 'insulting' fiction to teach kids a valuable lesson? Does what a youngster learn, mold who they eventually become?
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That is the job of an Adult, parent, guardian, caregiver to teach and guide children through life.
EricHiggin said:
If you've spent much time around kids when their 'indoctrinating' parents aren't around, and they understand they can get away with more negative behavior, that's exactly what they do. You can literally watch their sympathy fade knowing they won't get in major trouble for not doing so. Now any good indoctrinated adult wouldn't let that go for long, but it doesn't change the fact that's what occurs as soon as you allow the rules to be bent or broken. Those rules are all part of the indoctrination process, and so why don't they happily and easily follow them? It's not natural, that's why.
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I think you are trying to twist the narrative into something it's not.
EricHiggin said:
Based on that, climate change for example is a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously whatsoever by the public. Until science can undeniably know all factors and what they lead to, exactly, then it should simply be scientific doctrine. No green energy projects, no subsidies for those projects, no green taxes.
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Climate change is a scientific fact, it's got the functional models, it's had the research, Climatic change has been happening for millions of years and will continue to change indefinitely... Even past the point where this planet can no longer support the current life.
Climate change deniers are science deniers... And to put bluntly. Are idiots.
What is up for debate however is the extent of human-influenced climate change... And that is an entirely different discussion.
  
   
      
  
    
  
    
  
    
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No, but you can bet those cavemen were.
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So people noticed something, something they couldn't explain, and went looking for answers? Just because it was easier to understand and prove, doesn't mean one is worthy and the other is not. If that's the case, the universe isn't worth explaining, because we didn't used to know there was a universe, and we still haven't undeniably explained it yet. To imply that things we've proven only have value, goes directly against scientific questioning and research itself.
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Science probing for the ingredients to life or life itself on other planets? Billions being wasted on conspiracy theories? Why isn't this headline news?
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Teaching and guiding can't be indoctrinating? Maybe only when it's the closest caregiver as they can't be indoctrinated themselves?
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Just pointing out consistent observations. Maybe my presence simply brings out the worst in people, who knows?
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Now I didn't specify man made, but pointing out the human dependent energy reliance and tax connection, I don't see the disconnect or confusion.
"I think you are trying to twist the narrative into something it's not."
