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EricHiggin on 28 March 2020
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OhNoYouDont said:
EricHiggin said:

Did science precisely predict this Covid outbreak? Has is saved us all from it since?

You're too focused on the religion and science, when the point here was the free individual that's accepting or denying what those offer.

You have some who are 100% all in on religion, which then goes against science, while you also have some who are 100% all in on science, which goes against religion.

If certain religion and it's one and only God's teachings aren't useful, then why should science and it's "God particle" be the one and only that's useful?

One and only one being useful and all others being discarded is Nazi type thinking, no matter the subject, and look what that type of thinking led to. 

Like what was said before, what's important is improving where possible when failures occur.

You did not comprehend a single point I made and proceeded to prove my emphasized statement.

Yes, science is saving tons of lives of those impacted by COVID 19. How many has religion saved? Oh right, people continued to have religious gatherings and now entire churches have COVID 19. 

No scientist refers to the Higgs boson as "god particle" - a media name only.

Discarding bad and unreliable epistemologies (methods to determine what is true) is what rational thinkers do. Only if a method works ought we retain it.

Prayer is equally as effective as tossing a coin in a wishing well, which is to say that it is no more effective than doing literally nothing at all.

Neither did you. Imagine that.

Religion doesn't have anyone "social distancing" themselves? All science is on hold and nobody part of science has contracted or spread COVID 19?

I realize it's not the proper scientific term. It was a play on words. Science knows that it's findings are being misunderstood and misrepresented, and yet does little about it. If you want to say that's fine because science doesn't care about how it's used, then you're indirectly saying if science is used to destroy the world and end mankind, that science doesn't care. What good is science whatsoever if there's no one alive to continue it's research? If science can end itself, due to lack of logic and morality, doesn't that go against what science is after? Exploring the universe and finding more truth's? I wonder why there's a problem with suicide? I wonder why it's said that suicidal people have mental issues and need help? If it's not ok for people to stop caring and end themselves, for whatever reason, why is it ok for science to not care and potentially end itself?

Again, is it rational to use science to create something that could potentially be used to end the human race? I think many would agree it would be more rational if science also used logic and morals to make sure it was only used for good, but if science doesn't care, well.

What about the poor starving person who eventually collects those coins and uses that to feed themselves?

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 28 March 2020