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Leynos said:
Jumpin said:

No. A reboot is the restart of series or franchise and discards the continuity in order to create an entirely new one; that's something completely different from a remake. An example of a reboot would be Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

A port with small enhancements or additional content is actually just called a port; sometimes an enhanced port to acknowledge the enhancements. Skies of Arcadia Legends, for example, is a port despite all the new content, graphical touch ups, and gameplay tweaks.

A remaster is a new edition that replaces outdated assets and codework/engines in order to bring an existing game to a new generation. This is what Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition is. Just because it's a more extensive remaster than other remasters does not suddenly make it something completely different.

A remake is a new take on the same story. It's not just an asset swap or a code/engine update, it's an entirely new design which attempts to recapture the original, but not replicate it. A current trend in film is live action remakes of animated films, this is a good illustration for what a game remake is because the macro-concept is directly translatable between the two industries. "Final Fantasy Remake" fits the definition of a remake to a T.

Well, what is it, a re-imaging or a reboot? A reimagining is not a type of reboot, it's a type of remake. It differs from a standard remake by creating a new franchise or universe; characters, and everything. Xenoblade Chronicles can be considered a reimagining of Xenogears since the game, on the bare bones conceptual level, is based on Xenogears with much of the plot points being remade. But by far the most prominent example of a reimagining is Star Wars vs The Hidden Fortress, and that is the best way to illustrate the term.

A big clue that Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition is a remaster is the definitive edition written right into its title. The same thing can be said about Final Fantasy 7 Remake.

What you are trying to do is to use semantical fan logic to redefine well-established industry terminology in order to elevate something beyond what it actually is, like the whole "Metroid is an RPG because you play the role of Samus." In the end, it's an exercise in pretentiousness.

And Curl-6, my sincerest apologies for continuing the derail over someone's fanboy nitpick of one of my posts. But I suffer from German cultural flaws, like arguing about trivial details.

Don't quote me or at me again because it's hilarious how wrong you are but this is the hill you die on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remake

"A remake is a production of a filmtelevision seriesvideo game, or similar form of entertainment that is based upon an earlier production. A remake tells the same story as the original but uses a different cast and may alter the theme or target audience.[1]"

"A video game remake is a video game closely adapted from an earlier title, usually for the purpose of modernizing a game for newer hardware and new audiences. Typically, a remake of such game software shares essentially its title, fundamental gameplay concepts, and core story elements with the original. Remakes are often made by the original developer or copyright holder, although some are made by the fan community. If created by the community, video game remakes are sometimes also called fan games and can be seen as part of the retrogaming phenomenon."

This is from your wikipedia link. Did you even bother to read it?

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is close adaption modernized for newer hardware and newer audiences. Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition is NOT adapted from an earlier game, IT IS an an edition/update of an earlier game, remastered for newer hardware. The gameplay, story, voice work, and design remain unchanged and unmodernized.

Also from Wikipedia "Remastering a video game is more difficult than remastering a film or music recording because the video game's graphics show their age.[13] This can be due to a number of factors, notably lower resolutions and less complicated rendering engines (usually 3D) at the time of release, while implementing newer graphical technologies may also change the gameplay."

However, this definition does fit Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition. It covers both your key points: new graphics and new engine.

If you're going to come at someone pompously and trollishly, it's best not to own yourself in the process. And if you really have the audacity to say that your going to attack and kill someone on a hill, do so with something a little more credible than Wikipedia, and if Wikipedia is your sword, best to make it one you're not going to trip and fall on. 

Also, now that I've taken you to school, learn how to read: Xenoblade Definitive EDITION, Final Fantasy REMAKE.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 24 March 2020

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