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EricHiggin on 18 March 2020
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thismeintiel said:
EricHiggin said:

(Lockhart - $299)
PS5 - $499
XBSX - $599

I can't see PS5 being any less than $449 with a sub, so I'd guess they stick with $499 and try and make Lockhart or last gen look extremely inferior. I think PS5 ends up 2:1 against both XB consoles. If by chance Lockhart doesn't show up, then 3:1 if not worse.

If both consoles end up $399 and $499 somehow, I will be stunned.

Well, we already know Japan gives them a 8M-9M advantage.  EU should go big in Sony's favor, as usual.  NA and the UK, I can see it being pretty damn close.  Unless the launch prices are something like $399 vs $599.  In that case, MS can brag about power all they want, it won't help them.  Of course, you also have the fact that Sony will still have games that you can't get anywhere else. 

As for realistic prices, I could definitely see Sony taking a $50-$100 hit to land at a $399 price point.  This will be a very important gen for them, and PS is one of the largest pillars for the company.  They need it to succeed.  Definitely can't see them going above $449.  MS, on the other hand, are going to sell this thing as close to cost as possible.  That's why I can see it going for anywhere from $499-$599, depending on how much it sctually costs to make.

I didn't mean $499 would be without a sub. I should have been more clear. I think even $499 would require a reasonable sub. $449 would require SNY to get more generous then they have been. Maybe they would, maybe not, but $399 seems crazy to me right now.

If MS can, and does decide to make XBSX $50 more than PS5 no matter what, then SNY might as well set their price at $499. Above that already get's MS into minor trouble. At $399 that could mean a $449 XBSX, and who wouldn't pay that much for it? $549 though? Also, if Lockhart exists, and is less than $399, then a $499 PS5 makes Lockhart look really weak and questionable to those who can afford to wait to save up for a PS5 (or buy a PS4 or Pro instead).

DonFerrari said:
thismeintiel said:

How about we try not to be dickish?  No one said anything about them breaking even at $399.  Of course they would be taking a $50+ loss, but that is still something Sony would be fine with doing.

Well, we already know Japan gives them a 8M-9M advantage.  EU should go big in Sony's favor, as usual.  NA and the UK, I can see it being pretty damn close.  Unless the launch prices are something like $399 vs $599.  In that case, MS can brag about power all they want, it won't help them.  Of course, you also have the fact that Sony will still have games that you can't get anywhere else. 

As for realistic prices, I could definitely see Sony taking a $50-$100 hit to land at a $399 price point.  This will be a very important gen for them, and PS is one of the largest pillars for the company.  They need it to succeed.  Definitely can't see them going above $449.  MS, on the other hand, are going to sell this thing as close to cost as possible.  That's why I can see it going for anywhere from $499-$599, depending on how much it sctually costs to make.

Sony certainly plan on undercut MS on the higher spec consoles, that is the reason they didn't set the price. The cost is on refining calculation, the retail price already have the range they can tolerate, now they just want to be more certain of how much cheaper they can and will sell.

Also depends on if Lockhart exists. SNY being put in the middle would make their pricing strategy that much more crucial. They are really going to want to know how much both XBSX and Lockhart cost before they put a price on PS5.