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SpokenTruth said:
sundin13 said:

I guess I'll just ask you this plainly: Do you think M4A would get passed in its current form?

Political policy ideologies tend to be a very self-fulfilling prophecy.  If you say we can't do something, we won't.  Why?  Because no effort.  Everybody will have a defeatist attitude of why bother?...why try?  We've established the foregone conclusion it will fail before even trying. Ergo it failed because we failed because we said it would fail.

Absolutely everything can pass if the people demand it enough.  That's part of the beauty of a democracy. But we've become both complacent with "good enough" and defeatist with "we can't do that in America".

That doesn't really answer my question though and in many ways it actually enforces my arguments for Biden in the general.