Is Bidens campaign dead? (EDIT: Well, this was turned around completely.)

[sundin13]

Eagle367 said:

sundin13 said:

I would agree that the trend is less prominent in Republicans than Democrats, but to say that they never move toward the center I think is overstating things. One of the reasons why basically nothing actually made it through Congress is because Trump couldn't get all of his party on board for the far right things he was proposing. This government has just been so dysfunctional and unable to negotiate that they largely just gave up on many of the things that they couldn't figure out, or attempted other less cooperative methods (which are also generally less impactful and less able to stand the test of time).

That said, a good chunk of the reason why this trend is more prominent among Republicans than Democrats is because, again, Democrats have a tendency of eating their own. When Trump was elected, the party became the party of Trump. While our diversity is often our strength, it can also be a weakness because you have certain elements directly challenging the ideals of party unity.

Additionally, as previously said, if Bernie does not move towards the center, he would simply get nothing passed through congress. M4A simply isn't going to happen in its current form right now when the dems don't have Congress, and even if they did, many don't support such a radical (relatively) bill.

I disagree entirely. When negociating, you start with the most extreme position. That's how republicans have pulled the democratic establishment more and more to the right. Bernie Sanders will pull the republicans to the left by forcing them to make concessions while usual democrats these days just compromise before even starting negociations.

I guess I'll just ask you this plainly: Do you think M4A would get passed in its current form?