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SpokenTruth said:
sundin13 said:

First of all, I again disagree with the premise that there is no way to influence a politician after election. That is false, especially when both reelection and midterms are both a thing.

Second, I don't know what it is about everyone suddenly forgetting how the country has been for decades, but Biden's entire platform is pretty dang far to the left compared to virtually every president ever. While Biden is unlikely to be the furthest left of all the democrats, acting like his platform is basically a Republican platform is blatantly false. If his platform were put in place, the country would move significantly to the left.

But even assuming that you were 100% right and he is just a status quo candidate, thats fine. Compared to Trump, I would take that any day. Compared to a border wall and this disaster of a pandemic response and a 7-2 conservative majority in the Supreme Court? Give me the democratic status quo! I will happily accept! There is no loss here. If you vote for Biden in the general, the scenario that all the Bernie or Bust guys seem to fear, is still a win.

Come on man.  That's twice you've misread my posts and used that misread as your talking point. 

I was more talking about the general attitude of people I have spoken to, not any specific thing that you said. I apologize for the imprecise wording, but this is the argument I am making, even if it isn't the one you are directly engaging with. I am speaking generally to the Bernie or Bust people, and speaking about the arguments they are bringing up. You could consider it hyperbole for yourself in particular, but I believe the point still applies, and it isn't hard to find this type of opinion from this crowd.