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Eagle367 said:
sundin13 said:
Been watching the debate alongside the live updates from 538, and Nate Silver made a comment that I've been feeling for a while but haven't really been able to put into words:

"One of the things that people constantly get wrong about Biden, as his pivot toward embracing Warren’s bankruptcy bill shows, is that he’s not really a centrist — instead he’s more of a “generic Democrat” who basically holds the positions that the median Democratic legislator has."

A lot of people seem to worry about Biden's stances from years ago as if they will be predictive of the future. I don't think that is fair, because Biden has shown a propensity to adapt when the winds of change blow in the party. This is why we are seeing his platform shifting so far to the left. The party has moved in that direction. Further, that is why it is so important to not fall into a nihilistic stupor regarding politics if Biden becomes the nominee. If we demonstrate that the party has shifted, I believe Joe Biden will follow suit.

Vote for Joe! #JOEMENTUM

Biden has lied like Obama lied when he was running. Can't trust these people. Obama ran as a progressive and didn't lead the country that way. Biden will be far more right if he becomes president.

Thats how government works, bro. This isn't a dictatorship. Especially when you don't have Congress, you need to negotiate to get people on board. Depending on where your policies lie, often that means pivoting towards the center. The exact same thing would happen under a Bernie presidency, assuming he actually got anything passed.

As for the rest, it is up to the voters and our representatives to hold him accountable. Again, if the progressive wing of the party is as active and as powerful as they are at their best, Biden and the party will be forced to the left. If the progressive wing of the party doesn't fucking show, then they aren't going to be around to have a voice at the table.