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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

Ryzen isn't like past AMD CPU arch's that were power chuggers and miniature oven's. Intel's desktop Core Series just keeps getting worse power efficiency and thermals gen after gen.

Nevermind.  I just read the specs on that ZBox and it uses Intel mobile CPU's not desktop.  Hence my thermal concern for high end AMD CPUs being used.

Ah. I didn't notice the H part. Good eye. Even though 65W is seen as high for some of the Ryzen CPU's, that's still probably too much to compete with Intel's 45W mobile CPU's. Ryzen mobile hasn't been great until the recent 4000 Series, and those are just hitting the market, so maybe we could see a few of those CPU's in Zbox's sometime this year. More likely next year though as most companies have waited at least a year to let AMD products prove themselves before jumping on board.

Your initial point was solid. I thought most mini PC's were still considered desktops, especially considering the RTX 2080 here. My mistake.



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