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Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:

I never said the ports were bad. Clearly they are making the most use of the limited resources of the Xbox One.
It's just... Every other platform (Playstation 4, Playstation 4 Pro, PC) is superior on the visuals front, which is par-the course all generation long.

The other issue is that many games on the base Playstation 4 (Like those I listed prior) are better than the Xbox One variant operating on the Xbox One X, despite it's superior hardware.

It is what it is, that is the downside of releasing iterative updated hardware mid-console cycle... And I will provide both Nintendo and Sony the same criticism for the same reasons as well, I don't have a console bias remember.

Clearly not if they are struggling to make a proper Xbox One version.

The Xbox One X is an Xbox One. It even has "Xbox One" in it's title/branding, you can't pretend it's anything other than an Xbox One.

The Xbox One X does things the Xbox One cannot do, that is not even up for debate. - But that means bugger all, it's still an Xbox One. - Otherwise why are we bothering to call the Xbox One X an Xbox One at all?

Correct. But that doesn't change the fact that the Xbox One X is built from the same hardware base as the Xbox One, has an identical software stack and operates the *exact* same games library and is.... *Drumroll* Advertised as an Xbox One by Microsoft.

Either way, I feel like this discussion isn't really progressing anywhere at the moment.

My mistake, when you said "shocking ports," that could clearly be interpreted as good. You meant the X1 has shockingly good ports in spite of less power.

Somehow you've moved this part of the discussion from Cyberpunk on X1... to 720p games on X1X. I'm just gonna move on.

Are they struggling to put Cyberpunk on X1? I am skeptical if the PS4 version has gone smoothly. Maybe every delay is due to X1, even the Sony exclusive delays. Delays weren't a thing until X1.

If I bought a Xbox One X, but received a Xbox One, I'd be pretty fucking pissed. I don't think I'd be content with hearing, "they both have Xbox One in the title."

On a side note my 2DS isn't a 3DS. I don't care if plays 3DS games, it's still a 2DS.

-"The Xbox One X is an Xbox One. It even has "Xbox One" in it's title/branding, you can't pretend it's anything other than an Xbox One."

-"If I bought a Xbox One X, but received a Xbox One, I'd be pretty fucking pissed. I don't think I'd be content with hearing, "they both have Xbox One in the title.""

-"On a side note my 2DS isn't a 3DS. I don't care if plays 3DS games, it's still a 2DS."

So Switch and Switch Lite are not the same thing then?