Tracking The Rise (Or Fall?) of Skywalker

[thismeintiel]

Lonely_Dolphin said:

thismeintiel said:

Well, if this was a new IP, or even a so-so known one, and the budget was $200M ($300M-$400M when including marketing), this would be a good result.  Of course, considering this was a SW movie, and the budget was more like $300M (probably $450M-$500M including marketing), this is a bad result. 

As for merch, that revenue was down in 2017 and even more so in 2018.  Considering we had the massively popular Black Panther and Infinity War in 2018, SW must have been pretty low to offset the revenue from that.  Then, I believe in late 2018 or early 2019, Disney rolled their consumer products division into their parks experiences division to hide the losses.  Though, I think the last time I looked, that was down slightly, too.  Could be wrong on that.  Either way, there's a reason Disney wanted to retcon TLJ.

The lack of transparency is as always annoying. We can assume the trilogy is a failure, but only Disney really knows. In a perfect world quality would determine success, but that's not the world we live in so I have to wonder about it. Doubtless there will be another Trilogy either way.

Well, if we are talking about something flopping, aka losing the studio money, it definitely wasn't that.  Well, Solo actually did lose them quite a bit of money.  However, TLJ and ROS were definitely disappointments for Disney, so in that way it was a failure.  I mean we were supposed to get two new and separate trilogies before TLJ came out, one done by Rian Johnson and another which was later going to be given to David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.  According to Kathleen Kennedy, they are done with trilogies, now.  So, it's pretty obvious these films didn't perform how they were meant to.