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Alistair on 03 January 2020
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JRPGfan said:
Alistair said:

A future Switch can beat the PS4 Pro in everything except the GPU. For GPU power you are too thermally constrained. But the CPU and solid state storage can equal or surpass current consoles. I think that's why these arguments are going nowhere. No doubt a future Switch will be stronger and weaker, depending on what you are looking at.

The iPad Pro already has an amazing CPU that absolutely wallops the PS4 and PS4 Pro. But the GPU will take a lot longer to reach that level. I'm ok with that as CPU tends to be the most important part to get high frame rate gaming at 1080p type resolutions.

"But the CPU and solid state storage can equal or surpass current consoles." - Ali

Supposedly PS5 / XBSX, will have Ryzen Zen 2 CPU's..... with 8 cores / 16 threads.
Thats like a downclocked "Ryzen 7 3700x". (this CPU competes with a i5-9600k in gameing benchmarks)

How in hell do you beat that with any current ARM cpu? (from what I understand there no where close to that yet)

Also even those Solid State storage is smaller than traditional harddrives.... they still take up quite alot of space.
Space a handheld device probably wont have, to spare.  

Thats ontop of all the things that lay beneath, that allows it to run the way it does.
Which again, no normal ARM chip would have. 
Nintendo would have to not buy "off the rack" normal mobile chips, for them to get anywhere close to what your claiming.
(basically this would be expensive as hell, if at all possible (the cpu thingy just isnt))

Alistar what you said, comes off sounding like dreams & wishfull thinking, without anything from reality backing it up.

Try reading next time? I clearly said the PS4 "FOUR" CPU, and the current gen, and you are comparing with the PS5 instead... This is why people don't bother to discuss the Switch's power with people, there's a bunch of people who just rant lopsidedly without even reading what's on the page or thinking at all.

The current Switch has a weak CPU and GPU (it's a $30 mobile chip, not a desktop or home console class chip). However, current cellphone ARM CPUs (which will be 6 years newer than the 2014 CPU from the Galaxy Note 4 that is in the Switch) are much faster than the PS4 Pro's CPU. Both the Snapdragon 855, and even more so the iPad Pro's CPU are faster than the PS4. The GPU however is quite a bit slower as the GPU uses up most of the "power" or "thermal" budget in a console, and can't be fit in a mobile device at this time. (though they are getting closer, I think the PS4 itself is in reach for the next iPad Pro).

So as I said, a future Switch could easily have a faster CPU, but a slower GPU than the PS4 Pro. That might make it seem faster overall, as having a faster CPU can allow fast refresh rates easily enough, but you will be limited to 1080p type resolutions for years. And the Switch already feels faster than the PS4 imo because it uses flash storage. You can get a 500GB SD card for $50 that is absolutely microscopically tiny compared to a traditional hard drive and so it isn't really even worth arguing with you about that.