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setsunatenshi said:
NextGen_Gamer said:
Quick question: has either Microsoft or Sony ever confirmed they are using 7-nm for their next-gen systems? I know that is the current "Navi" and "Zen 2" manufacturing node - but when Sony/MS release the next consoles in Holiday 2020, TSMC's 5-nm process node will already be in mass production and already have a MASSIVE product scale going on - Apple's A14 in next year's iPhone release in Sep/Oct, which still sell in the 10 million+ range in the first weekend. That is far higher than any console launch. It would be riskier to go with a brand-new manufacturing node from the beginning, but using 5-nm right away would allow something like a 56 CU behemoth from Microsoft to launch at $399...

yes, it was confirmed by AMD's CEO Lisa Su at the Microsoft stage. They should be using the 7nm+ process

Ah, okay thank you for that. So that would be the 7-nm EUV process - which does improve a little on transistor density compared to the "regular" 7-nm one, but not enough for any kind of serious money savings on MS' part if the 56 CU GPU turns out to be true.