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thismeintiel on 31 December 2019
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NightlyPoe said:
thismeintiel said:

The numbers back me up, not you.  TLJ dropped just 27% in its 3rd weekend, which is better than TFA's 40% fall for the same weekend.  Obviously, whoever was kept away from watching it the previous week went then.

The numbers do not back you up.  Simple math will tell you that the same percentage saved from $220 million is worth more than 3 times as much as the same percentage saved from $71 million.  For example.

If TLJ had a Christmas Friday, it's completely believable that its 2nd weekend would only have fallen by 50%.  Still more than The Force Awakens, but not a super high number.  Heck, let's just be reasonable and give it a modest boost so that it only falls 55%  That's a $99 million 2nd weekend.  About $28 million higher than it did with its disadvantaged calendar.

So you're telling me that those $28 million in ticket sales that were lost came back in the 3rd weekend?  By that logic, we can simply subtract the the actual ticket sales number by that and come by what how you believe it would have sold if it not for the deferred ticket sales.  So:

$52 - $28 = $24 million

By your logic, without the deferred ticket sales the The Last Jedi would have plummeted 76% in its third weekend to... where it ended up in its 4th weekend?

Sorry, but no.  The simpler answer is that a significant portion of the deferred sales never happened.

You can speak of a bunch of hypotheticals that can never be proven, but they still don't answer why the box office dropped along with merch sales.  Or was the merch not released on a convenient day?  Let me finish my reply by simply quoting myself:

"Of course, you can point out whatever numbers you want. Make up any excuses you want. In the end, I have the largest piece of damning evidence on my side as to TLJ being a disappointment. Disney's reaction to the performance of that film, and its affect on the franchise. Just two years later they made a film that retcons TLJ and pokes fun at it. This would not have happened if the film performed well enough in their eyes. Obviously, it didn't. It also hurt merch sales.

So, there is no reason to continue with the excuses. Disney has spoken."