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thismeintiel on 30 December 2019
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My mistake.  Thought I hit edit, but hit reply by accident.

NightlyPoe said:
thismeintiel said:

Only problem with your theory is that Fri, which had nothing on the calendar going against it, saw a drop of 76% compared to TFA's 59%.

The Force Awakens 2nd Friday was Christmas.  One of the best box office holidays of the entire year.  Having Christmas and Boxing Day come on the weekend was a huge boon.  You can't compare the two.

For comparison, notice that Rise of Skywalker did better on Wednesday and Thursday than it did on Friday.  It takes a major holiday kiss to make a movie make more on a weekday than it does on the weekend.  The Force Awakens had both the weekend and the Christmas kiss.  So, yeah, its Friday maintained unusually well.

The TFA dropped 28% on Xmas Eve from the day prior, and still made $27.4M.  ROS dropped 31%, making $20.3M.  TLJ dropped 40%, making $17.6M. 

Again, you're comparing two completely different scenarios.  

The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker had Christmas Eve on Thursday and Tuesday respectively.  There's hardly any drop usually between Wednesday and Thursday, and a on Christmas holiday, not much between Monday and Tuesday (during a regular week it's a different story).

Almost every week there's a significant drop between Saturday and Sunday.  For a non-premiering movie, Saturday is usually the biggest day of the week while Sunday typically drops 30-50%.  The Last Jedi had Christmas Eve on top of that typical drop.

Again, I'll make an easy prediction that all next week The Last Jedi will significantly outperform Rise of Skywalker.  If I'm wrong about that, you get all the bragging rights.

Even if you wish to move the money around to give the 2nd weekend a smaller drop, which would just mean a larger drop the 3rd weekend, it isn't going to change how it ended up performing as a whole.

Yes it does.  Any businessman will tell you it's better to make a sale today than wait until tomorrow.  While some people might come back the next day, several others will not.  Sharing its 2nd weekend with Christmas shopping and delaying its Christmas bonus until its 3rd week really hurt The Last Jedi.  Yes, it regained some customers, but many more either never bothered to see the movie or didn't go a second time because they didn't have time when the movie fresh and new.

Actually, I'll use this post to respond to you. 

The numbers back me up, not you.  TLJ dropped just 27% in its 3rd weekend, which is better than TFA's 40% fall for the same weekend.  Obviously, whoever was kept away from watching it the previous week went then.

Of course, you can point out whatever numbers you want.  Make up any excuses you want.  In the end, I have the largest piece of damning evidence on my side as to TLJ being a disappointment.  Disney's reaction to the performance of that film, and its affect on the franchise.  Just two years later they made a film that retcons TLJ and pokes fun at it.  This would not have happened if the film performed well enough in their eyes.  Obviously, it didn't.  It also hurt merch sales. 

So, there is no reason to continue with the excuses.  Disney has spoken.

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 30 December 2019