Xbox Series X Announced (Xbox Scarlett)!

[EricHiggin]

Pemalite said:

EricHiggin said:

Push pull would likely be preferred yes, but more so if the fans were blowing down. If they are blowing up, sucking from the base, depending on how much pressure differential they are creating, and how close the base of the console sits to the floor, dust could certainly be an issue.

Thermal expansion, yes. As the air goes up it deals with less pressure and loses energy, making it cooler. When it's windy out though, depending on how windy, the hot air will mostly go sideways, but also up. The difference is an open space is quite a bit different than an enclosed, if not sealed space. Not to mention controlled vs constant variation. An enclosed controlled console, in an enclosed controlled building, with fans blowing down through the console, will receive little to no thermal expansion resistance. The entire room will have roughly the same air pressure and temp, so forcing air down though the console would be easy, depending on how the internals are laid out.

Dust shouldn't be much more of an issue than any other console really. Depends on how much CFM they are pushing.

In an environment where there isn't much "breeze/wind" the hot air will rise as consoles are typically contained in a "compartment" like on a shelf under the TV in a unit. - You don't want to be sucking the warm air from top to push it out the bottom.

It's hard to explain, but when I had the fire stations thermal camera the top few inches of air in my cabinet where my console resides was warmer than the rest due to hot air rising from thermal expansion.

Either way, Microsoft has likely done the appropriate testing and ascertained which approach is suitable for them, highly doubt we will ever see a RROD v2.0 ever again.

If you look at it from a point of view where the XB1's or PS4's are standing, then yes, even they don't suck up all that much dust, depending on how dusty the location is. The PS4 does tend to be worse due to it's overall design when it comes to dust intake though. Based on XB1X, MS should have learned enough that if XBSX cooling is anything of similar quality, it should be fine for the most part.

You're right if someone has a mostly closed off cabinet and has the Series X standing in it, if it's fans suck air in from the top. Some of the heat would remain inside and rise to the top and get sucked back in. I wasn't taking that factor into account. I really wonder how many people have a closed off cabinet these days. My cabinet is around 25 years old and even the backing on it has an approx 12"x 3" knockout for each section so hot air can exit. Plus how many are really going to set the Series X upright in that cabinet? Even in and enclosed cabinet, if they lay it sideways like they should, the console won't suck much hot air from the top. The problem then would come after playing for hours on end, while the ambient temp slowly increases inside the cabinet since the heat can't easily escape, in which case no console cooling design is going to be able to fix that. Just looking at the Series X, along with it's estimated specs, it's clearly designed to sit out in the open, and for more than just one worthy reason.

I don't disagree. I wasn't considering a closed off cabinet. It seemed obvious to me that was a terrible idea, like enclosing a kid or pet in a vehicle, in the middle of the outback, in the middle of the summer. How many people do that vs how many people who crack the windows to some degree vs how many who wouldn't put the kid or pet in that situation in the first place? Now the console isn't alive, but same concept.

Agree for the most part.