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Locknuts on 22 December 2019
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Machiavellian said:
Locknuts said:

I never claimed that Trump was a good or altruistic person. I think you're making huge assumptions about what I'm saying.

Yes, Trump tried to do something illegal, probably found out it was illegal afterwards and then had to comply with the law. 

What matters is if they can find evidence of his intentions. His base will believe that he was simply trying to stop corruption. The opposition say that it was a selfish move to attempt to crush a political opponent. We need proof of his intentions or not one Republican is going to vote to impeach in the Senate.

I agree that I am making an assumption on how you view Trump.  

You state that if the Dems can find evidence of his intentions then all is good.  I am wondering how you seem to dismiss all the sworn in testimony by the people directly involved in the whole situation.  So in a criminal investigation when they cannot find the gun that killed someone but they have sworn in testimony of people directly involved in the incident and they not only show intent but also every move up to the incident and after that shows what the person did, how is that not enough.  What you are basically saying is that as long as the gun is not found, then its ok, and you are willing to throw out everything else.

Isn't sworn in testimony important in understanding something like this situation.  A person do not have to come out and actually state like some comic book villain what their intention is, people who willing to go under oath and testify to what they seen and heard is how we get to the truth.  Can these people be lying, yes they can and as was shone by Mueller, liars can be found guilty and prosecuted.

The President had every opportunity to find witnesses to counter what these people stated but not only did he not produce any, even the Republican witnesses could not do the same.  I am not sure what else you may need but I hope its not depending on Trump base to find some excuse to his action.  Excuses are very easy to come by as we have seen during the impeachment trial but excuses is all they turned out to be.

The difference between a murder case and this is that corruption by US Officials (Biden) is Trump's business. His base believe he was just doing his job. We need someone to testify to his intentions.

The latest data show that Americans have started to reject impeachment:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

If nobody can testify that Trump wanted Biden investigated not because of corruption but because he is a rival, then Trump looks like the victorious underdog in this whole thing and wins 2020.