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sundin13 said:
Locknuts said:

I haven't seen it. It all seems pretty weak to me. They need something absolutely concrete after that whole Russia fiasco, otherwise Trump is basically guaranteed 2020.

Unless I've just missed it? I'd be happy to get a link to some concrete stuff.

How do you consider trying to get Ukraine to publicly announce investigations (Note: Not just conduct investigations, but publicly announce investigations) of the Biden's by withholding military aid and a White House visit "pretty weak"? Like, how do you even defend that? How do you take a step back and say "No, that's totally cool and isn't a gross abuse of power"?

If this happened under any President who wasn't a complete shit show, it would easily be one of the biggest American political scandals of all time. Easy.

So he wanted them to make a public show that they're taking their stance on corruption seriously? Seems fair to me. It's not like the Ukraine are entitled to US money.

So what's the crime and how did he break it?