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EricHiggin on 13 December 2019
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DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

How sure are you that XB1S sales aren't being propped up by XB1X, and would be even worse without it?

XB1 had it's own issues. Just because RROD was fixed yet replaced with other things that were seen as issues, doesn't automatically make it a purchase this time around.

People may stick with or buy into last gen, but the main point is about next gen sales. If someone isn't going to bother with next gen, why take them into consideration?

How many people bought Wii just because of motion controls? Most of those people bought in because it was also cheap. One main feature to influence a customer to buy is great if you can provide it, but quite often there's more than just one thing that makes you want to buy a certain console.

We can't be sure, but considering the sales only dropped after X1X there isn't any strong showing that either PS4Pro or X1X improved sales of base model (the bump we saw with X1X was mostly due to a drop caused by it when they announced so much earlier and then near launch they announced a price reduction for X1S a to early as well).

Sure X1 have its issue, PS4 does as well. But the point was that PS3 got a lot more hurdle to overcome and was still able to do it.

Sure the point is for nextgen, but we were talking about affordability as well, so we would need someone that wants a new machine, that is nextgen (and won't bother with MS saying that their games will keep being crossgen so X1 would still suffice for him) and also the cheapest one without caring that the performance is much lower with lets say 1080p instead of 4k for a mere 100USD difference. I don't really think that is such an expressive number.

Most people I know and news we have was that people bought it because of motion controls. Such evidence is present that for the first 2 years or so people were paying a lot above MSRP to buy one.

I'm a very conservative person, so for me to go against what we have historically seem on console sales I would need hard evidence instead of speculation for a future state that would be very different from what already happened but without much difference in the situation being present so don't fell bad if I don't agree with you =p

No hard feelings, no forced assimilation, just worthwhile thoughts.

While certain info isn't available to make a reliable conclusion, I don't focus as much on the past. It's certainly necessary and useful, but too much focus on what was, without enough consideration about what is, will make discerning the future less likely.

I mean, who could have foreseen this?