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Soundwave on 26 November 2019
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thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:

You're fucking old dude, lol, early 2000s isn't "recent" ... that's "old" by modern movie going trends. Pre-2009 IS OLD. The Hollywood business model has changed a lot even from then. You keep bringing up examples from like 12-15 years ago. That's a long time ago.

The fact of the matter is most 80s/90s reboots that aren't Disney live action or Jurassic Park have flopped the last 7-8 years.

Captain Marvel, Creed, Get Out, hell even the new Avengers film, and many other films have very clear "woke" messaging and they've all done big box office. I mean shit, Avatar is clear woke messaging. 

Films like Terminator and Charlie's Angels and RAMBO fail because they're tired concepts in this day and age. Who but late 30s-50 year olds would really even get excited about seeing these characters?

The movie business of 2019/2020 is not the same as 2008 either, you seem to have difficulty grasping this. There's only like 5 film properties consistently making large amounts of money anymore (Marvel/DC, Star Wars, Fast & Furious, Jurassic Park, general horror films). 

Boy, you really are desperate to have a point, aren't you?  Doesn't fit your narrative, too old/cherry pick.  If the film's a success, it's clearly woke because it has a black and/or woman in it.  Just desperate.

I'll just leave you to your lack of an argument, while I laugh as more of these woke films flop.  Good day.

Films will continue to flop because no one wants to see old ass 70s/80s/90s franchises especially those starring 70 year olds. 

Did you when you were 14 years old pine for franchises from the 1960s starring Marlon Brando or Warren Beatty? I'm guessing probably not. 

You just don't realize that this is happening again because you think the world revolves around your personal tastes. 

The movie business has also clearly changed to the point where nothing makes money aside from like 6 different franchises/genre types. There's rarely any action, comedy, romance, drama hits any more period. The fact is most of these franchise reboots from the 70s/80s/90s of the last 7-8 years especially have flopped. It's not just like a case of one or two. 

Alien Covenant had "woke" politics too? Rambo too? Men In Black also? Indepdence Day 2 as well? Robocop as well? The Predator too? Total Recall? Blade Runner? Like all of these recent remakes are "woke"? Gimme a fucking break. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 26 November 2019