Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

[Jumpin]

uran10 said:

Jumpin said:

You really can't listen to uran10 - being so obsessively fixated on Warren is more than just a little odd, to say the least. She's one of the top two progressives and is the one he is attacking by far the most.

He is either has some sort of agenda -- perhaps a paid Russian troll? Uran is a Slavic name after all. I see the sort of shit he's pulling in my own country's politics from Russian trolls.

The only alternative is that he's a fanboy who's angry that Warren is going to beat Bernie Sanders.

LOL Did you just accuse me of being a russian troll because Warren is a fauxgressive? I made this name when I was 10 based off of sailor Uranus, please don't come with that nonsense here. And I'm not attacking Warren, I'm pointing things out THAT SHE SAYS. Its vetting and because you mr"I'm the furthest left person in this thread yet I somehow don't support the real leftist in the race" don't like it I'm either a troll or a hater. Its neither. I have standards, you meet them, I support you otherwise get out of the way of progress. Its that simple for me. You think I'm fixated on Warren? nah I call out everyone but the main difference is while Pete and Biden can't get away with their lies cause most see through them, some progressives have a soft spot for Warren so it takes a little while longer for the flaws and lies being exposed to click with them.

And let me say this, Warren wont beat bernie and if she doess happen to be the nominee, don't come crying to me when Trump gets re-elected. I have a simple request tho, instead of accusing me of being a russian troll, how about trying to disprove what I've said about Warren, oh wait, you can't. Cause I either get it straight from Warren herself or someone goes through and exposes her for the fauxgressive she is. Someone as flawed as Warren is food for trump. So kindly stop trying to throw around "red scare bait" around here.

She's the top progressive candidate running for the Democratic nomination. You're the "fauxgressive"

And on never attacking Elizabeth Warren, do you really expect anyone to buy that crap? You've been attacking Warren with all sorts of conspiracy theory nonsense and spins for months now. It's almost comical with the volume of anti-Warren posts you have against her. You're doing it in this post while claiming you don't.

And what's this?

uran10 said:

Warren wont beat bernie and if she doess happen to be the nominee, don't come crying to me when Trump gets re-elected. I have a simple request tho, instead of accusing me of being a russian troll, how about trying to disprove what I've said about Warren, oh wait, you can't.

Really? I've called out your bullshit NUMEROUS times before. And I'll do it again right here:

On beating Bernie Sanders. She's re-taken the lead in the nationwide polls.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/7umtlf80ov/econTabReport.pdf

Poll	Date	Biden	Warren	Sanders	Buttigieg	Harris	Yang	Klobuchar	Booker	Castro	Gabbard	Steyer	Bullock	Delaney	Spread
Economist/YouGov	11/10 - 11/12	23	26	17	9	5	4	2	1	2	2	1	1	1	Warren +3

And you'll note in the breakdown that she also has a significantly lower disapproval rating than Sanders and a more comprehensive demographic approval among voters. Bernie's strength is in the 18-29 demographic, while Elizabeth Warren is strongest in 30-44 and 45-65. The 18-29 demographic consistently has a low voter turnout. On top of that, what has changed in polls lately is Elizabeth Warren has not only overtaken Sanders as the #1 second choice, but she is now a distant 1st place as the second choice. If you scroll to the "disappointed if the nominee is" section, Elizabeth Warren shows to have the second least disapproval - second only to Cory Booker. Despite Bernie Sanders having the longest-running nationwide fundraising infrastructure out of ALL the candidates (dating back to before the 2016 election), he has lost the traction he had.

And your claim that Trump will beat Warren sounds identical to what right-wing concern trolls say. And I'll point it out to you as I point it out to them: you clearly have not been paying attention exactly how unpopular Trump has been since about his third month in office. Are you ignoring the scandals he's tied up in?
The polls are unanimous on Warren vs Trump:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html#polls

Poll	Date	Sample	MoE	Warren (D)	Trump (R)	Spread
RCP Average	10/4 - 10/31	--	--	50.4	43.1	Warren +7.3
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl	10/27 - 10/30	720 RV	3.7	50	42	Warren +8
ABC News/Wash Post	10/27 - 10/30	876 RV	4.0	55	40	Warren +15
FOX News	10/27 - 10/30	1040 RV	3.0	46	41	Warren +5
IBD/TIPP	10/24 - 10/31	863 RV	3.5	52	44	Warren +8
Emerson	10/18 - 10/21	1000 RV	3.0	51	49	Warren +2
CNN	10/17 - 10/20	892 RV	4.0	52	44	Warren +8
SurveyUSA	10/15 - 10/16	3080 RV	2.1	48	44	Warren +4
Quinnipiac	10/4 - 10/7	1483 RV	3.1	49	41	Warren +8

It's not surprising that arguing with you very much resembles arguing with Trumpists.