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Pemalite said:
Lafiel said:

You quoted Cerny's statement yourself "higher than any SSD available for PCs" - that's singular = 1 SSD. A raid setup is not a singular SSD.

You can have a singular SSD faster than the PS5's SSD.
They tend to come in PCI-E card format... But shh. Tell no one.

EricHiggin said:

I'm not defending anybody and I'm not saying you're definitely wrong about the SSD. I'm saying for you to assume based on what info is available, that you're likely correct about the SSD set up, but to take the info that is available about historical console specs and pricing, etc, and say that $500 isn't a likely price and shouldn't be taken into account at all, is just nonsense. The price of the console determines to some degree what's inside it, which would effect your SSD guess.

I also never said the PS5 SSD would beat all PC's or anything close to that.

Yes, the PS4 is based off of existing PC tech that has been semi customized for it's application.

By Pro I meant minor semi customizations and not major one's, since it will be a new gen but also because the income is there since the brand is hot.

So if PS5 is $999 but worth $1,499 and Scarlett is $499 but worth $699, you'll choose the PS5 since that will clearly be the most compelling, since price doesn't matter? What about the other tens of millions of people who want a PS5 but can't come close to affording it, ever? Tough luck? Maybe PS might want to pick an affordable price and base the hardware around that, with potential reasonable subsidies?

I am not discounting that $500 is the likely price point.
I am taking issue with your goal post moving, which is to use pricing in your argument when pricing wasn't in Sony's original statements.

And yes, I would chose the Playstation 5 if it was $1,000 and Scarlett was $500 but the Playstation 5 had superior hardware, I am a hardware enthusiast.
For those who couldn't afford it? That's not really my concern or problem, that is theirs and Sony's.



Pricing is a given though. They may not have talked about pricing here, but it's not like it doesn't apply. It certainly won't be free.

I can only assume you must think a two model launch is what PS should do, because otherwise based on your pricing, a single unit launch leads to something like this gen's sales flipping, and PS5 becoming the XB1, especially come the XB mid gen upgrade. If hardware is much more important than lot's of high quality AAA games to play on it, then I guess the more expensive the console the better, because poor sales will lead to less, lower quality games. A $1,000 PS5 will not be like PS3 where it makes a comeback, even if it's like PS3 and has prior gen hardware in there, which would have to mean a special high end unit, or the dumbest move they've made since PS3. Two or three years of a $1,000 PS5 and then a $400-$500 slim with no more BC isn't going to fly again if they try it.

In a single unit launch, there is no way PS5 costs more than $500.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.