DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:
I didn't take it that way to begin with. Partial installs do make you wonder about how much space there will be available. 500GB does seem like cutting it more than just close, but 1000GB seems a lot like the PS4 500GB launch in terms of file sizes, and that wasn't exactly generous. Next gen game files will be more efficient due to much less duplication of data, but you're still likely going to end up with 75GB-100GB+ files for AAA next gen titles.
You've got a point, but who's really going to go to that trouble? I never thought about it until now, and I'd bet the overwhelming majority wouldn't have either. The fact it's mentioned along with the SSD, makes it seem less like a worthy new feature, which it would be, but at least somewhat of a necessity due to what may be seen as a lack of high speed storage. Which may or may not be seen as a problem when gamers actually get their hands on it. We'll see.
Nope, but they could offer upgrades, like memory cards if we go back to the PS2 days. The network/HDD adapter was through PS as well wasn't it? As long as the price was reasonable they could probably sell a worthy amount, but reasonable pricing for accessories or add ons isn't really typical in gaming. Unless they figure you can just wait for the mid gen upgrade with a much larger SSD, or maybe they will drop an SSD upgraded console every other year?
It could be that the console will have the SSD soldered right to the mobo, and there will be no internal space for an HDD. That way they wouldn't be lying by saying their focused on SSD for next gen. It doesn't mean that you wouldn't be able to plug in an external HDD, so you don't have to delete everything to make new space.
For someone like myself, even a 1000GB SSD, with no other storage back up would suck big time. My 5.0mbps net takes forever sometimes to just download sizable game updates, so even if the optical drive is much faster in terms of transfer speeds, since I would likely have to update again, it could take a long time before I'm gaming. Having an external HDD to hold sections or entire games, plus the updates or DLC, makes a ton of sense to me. A 15 to 20 minute transfer from HDD to SSD would be remarkably faster then waiting hours or until the next day to play something, that I already waited for prior.
I mentioned quite a while ago in another thread, if the PS app could allow you to swap games while away from home, you could have the console transfer game data before you get back so it's ready to go when you arrive.
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Don't remember a single PS4 game that the single player you need to wait download of update to start playing.
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I'm not sure if there are any either, specifically single player offline. While I haven't played Destiny in the longest time, I'm pretty sure you have to download updates even if you were only going to be playing solo, and it's not the only game like that.
Some games have been pretty broken though at their launch, so is playing a broken game 4 years after launch acceptable, if you have to wait hours or more, to re download the early patches to fix the issues? Issues that were fixed after months of updates initially, that you now have to deal with again because you had to delete everything to make space on the SSD?
An external HDD just to hold the data, so it can be transferred to the SSD quickly enough if you decide to play that game again, makes the most sense to me. If your net is fast or unlimited then I can see why an external HDD might seem useless. For those that don't want to pay for massive HDD space, they could just save the downloaded game data to an external and have it transfer to the SSD at the same time that the optical disc is transferring to the SSD. You might have to wait longer to play that way, and would have to be around to put the game disc in, but it would save you cost on the external storage. I myself would just get a reasonable size external and put all past game data on there so I could use the app when I'm away from home and transfer the game data from the external HDD to the internal SSD to save time.
