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fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

I've never claimed to be apolitical, I lean progressive on most issues and I don't try to hide this. My position has been from the beginning not that I am apolitical, but that that something as basic as insuring a healthy world for future generations shouldn't even be a left vs right issue, and the fact that it's even considered "political" or "partisan" is insanity.

You won't be impressed with the answer but that's called "myside bias" so there you go ... 

A traditionalist wouldn't see promoting the banning of gay marriage as being political while progressives would decry it as being otherwise. When we're talking about going green via deindustrialization, it's the other way around ... 

Different people are just going to see things differently that way until a real consensus actually comes along and I don't believe being 'green' is actually this 'consensus' ... 

If you somehow can't acknowledge this then there's no helping you open up a channel for some discourse. Just telling off entire groups that they're somehow 'wrong' isn't going to help when you're just as likely subconsciously participating in another groupthink as well so that's only going to feed some more fuel for echo chambers in the end ... 

This is why I don't like the idea of having politics (whether right or left wing) infecting our everyday parts of our lives because it'll eventually become toxic and bite us back in the ass in some way. You probably wouldn't approve of Nintendo if they had a new habbit of promoting a very traditionalist view of the world since you'd find it to be annoying eventually and it could potentially get in the way of how you enjoy their content ... 

What I'm saying is that there's more benefit to avoid politicization in our daily lives since relationships are less likely to breakdown this way. Why keep inviting politically loaded topics like this for no benefit ? What Sony is doing are not healthy for their customers and it's not healthy for society either since it only promotes/accelerates the division of society into partisan lines ... 

For this reason alone, I don't want to deal with politics at all no matter which partisan side they come from and you shouldn't want to either unless you want to see those closest to you bringing up politics that are constantly diametrically opposed to your values. Would that NOT tire you out at all ?

We all have myside bias though. I do. You do. Everyone does. Nobody can be truly objective as we all see the world through a lens influenced by our own experiences and environment.

One point I do have to agree with both here and with GoOnKid is that this discussion has kinda reached the point of being tiring and in danger of going toxic, so in the interest of my own mental health, which isn't in a good place at the moment, I'm going to call it quits here.