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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

1. Well then with this the mother and child will be fine then correct? Isn't that part of the reason of UBI? So that people who are in terrible situations have something to give them the basics and keep them going? No reasons for an abortion now correct? (I'm not including forced pregnancy in this btw)

2. I agree. We need to stop all space travel this instant because isn't it more humane to reduce the chance an astronaut will end up in a situation where they cannot be properly provided with heat or oxygen? Why not? Because they have been allowed to live long enough to be able to make that decision for themselves?

3. UBI basically cancels out the need for the majority of abortions, and vice versa. One or the other. Neither makes much sense as far as I'm concerned.

1). You're half there.  If we are going to force women to carry and care for the baby until adulthood, we must force men to also care for the baby adulthood.  And not just child support but actual in home, support just as the mother must do.

2). Man.  You are your weird analogies that just don't work. Caring for an expectant mother and her child is akin to keeping astronauts on the ground because they might die in space? You should really start having someone critique your analogies before you post them.

3). Well, that goes back to point 1.

1. No force. UBI. Here's enough money to do with whatever you please, so you can't argue that you don't have enough money, since you and the baby will both be given the basics financially. If you have another reason as to why you want to abort then you're free to voice that.

2. You wanted to know what a more humane choice would be because you asked if terminating the fetus was worse than having a baby/child where it cannot be properly cared for. Well what would be worse, allowing astronauts to potentially end up in a situation without heat or oxygen, or not sending them into space so that doesn't happen? Basically, ending all future potential careers of astronauts, like ending all future potential of fetus'. To boldly go where no aborted fetus has gone before?  

"You know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves, an irrational fear of the unknown. But there's no such thing as the unknown — only things temporarily hidden, temporarily not understood."

"Without freedom of choice there is no creativity. The body dies."

"Live long and prosper."

3. You wanted to know how trying to ensure the well being of the mother and child is inconsistent. If both she and the baby get UBI, then money should not be a problem since it will allow them the basic necessities.

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 21 May 2019

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