Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

[EricHiggin]

SpokenTruth said:

EricHiggin said:

1. Wrong? So no drugs come across the border? What if those lengths were no longer worth it?

2. Exact numbers are not known. Hmmm. Surrendered and eventually asked for asylum. Hmmm. Most analysts say. The experts again?

1. Again, ~90% come through the actual ports of entry.  A wall does nothing to prevent that.  In fact, the wall would just push more of them through the ports of entry.

But you are forgetting the fact that tunnels already exist.  A wall will not stop that.  And drones that can carry over 500 pounds are already on the market.  The wall is obsolete before it's even built.

2. Yeah, the experts.  I mean who else would ask about data, trends, information, etc...regarding a given topic?  Your outright dismissal of expert opinion is naive and dangerous.  Let's build a dam but not consult experts.  Let's prepare our foreign relations with a nuclear capable nation but not consult any experts. Let's build a $40 billion project but not consult any experts.

1. So when the border wall is properly fully built and complete, where do you think the focus will go next? How much easier will it be once it's all coming in through the same known locations?

How does a drone fix the tunnel problem? Can they scan the entire border at all times? How many drones are needed? How easily can they be avoided or taken down? How much do they and their maintenance cost? How reliable are they? How many back ups are necessary? Can they apprehend the illegals themselves?

2. I didn't say they were useless, I wasn't in my 'expert' job, I just said they shouldn't be looked upon like gods. Let's consult the experts, multiple groups of them, who can be trusted as much as possible, who would not all share a similar bias, and then use other types of experts to decide which makes the most sense. Then make a decision based on all of that. Just because one person or a group has a title of some sort doesn't make them super reliable, and just because a large group all think the same way doesn't mean they're necessarily correct. How do brand new bridges collapse? How do new software updates cause instability/crashes? The experts were all consulted at some point in that process.

SpokenTruth said:

EricHiggin said:

Pretty tough for them to 'pay for it' when the wall hasn't been built yet.

So all this trade deficit stuff now doesn't count?  Got it.

Where did we leave off here and how did we get to this?