the-pi-guy said:
There's a lot that's wrong here: A large percentage of drugs come to the country through legal entrances. Even if they weren't, you'd start to find that drug dealers would go to different lengths to make it happen. Building a wall isn't what is going to stop drug trafficking. At most, all it would do is change how drug trafficking is done. And it won't even do that, because again, Americans aren't interested in farm work. It's a nice idea that Americans would start picking up these jobs, but it's not what happens. Despite the fact that there are currently not enough workers, native born American workers aren't picking up these jobs. https://www.truthdig.com/articles/farmers-suffer-from-a-shortage-of-workers-but-native-born-americans-dont-want-the-jobs/ On the note that border spending will go down. That's another thing that just won't happen. It costs a lot of money to build and maintain a wall. You might think that you could use less people, but you really can't. If you want the border wall to work any better than our current border works, then you need to throw a ton of money at it. You still need a lot people patrolling to make sure they aren't building tunnels, climbing over, finding spots in the wall that aren't well maintained. At some point with a wall, you reach diminishing returns. Where it actually costs more money to defend the border than it actually saves.
Firstly a tiny wall around a house doesn't compare to a several thousand mile wall that has to be built through deserts and mountains. Secondly no one is building a wall around their house because they are worried about the influx of undocumented immigrants. The best reason to build a fence around your house is privacy, not security. |
Wrong? So no drugs come across the border? What if those lengths were no longer worth it? What if it was cheaper to just sell them elsewhere? More work to get them in, more cost, less drug use, less money going across the border. Once the border wall is taken care of, and money is being saved, where do you think they will focus on next?
Why work in terrible conditions for min wage when you can pretend to look for a job and collect welfare? You do realize you said working a job that provides the one thing people have to have, no question, that's mass produced, isn't worth it right? American's also don't seem to care about protecting their borders and fellow citizens within them.
Part of the point of a wall is to at least flat line if not decrease spending in that area. Once it's built, if done correctly, other than maintenance here and there and border patrol to verify the wall isn't breached, the wall should save money overall. Why are the Dems saying more needs to be spent on manpower and tech? That's what would need to be done without a proper physical barrier and would get more costly over time.
SpokenTruth said:
Do you mean privacy fences? Or walls around a gate community? I need to know more about what you mean. As for your links, those are caravans of refuges who are entering at the points of entry seeking asylum. Did you read your own articles? "But a wall would do little to slow migration, most immigration analysts say. While the exact numbers are not known, many of those apprehended along the southern border, including the thousands who present themselves at legal ports of entry, surrender voluntarily to Border Patrol agents and eventually submit legal asylum claims." Those that are more spread out now and are crossing illegally are doing so because of the frustrations and fear of actually crossing at the legal points of entry (exceptionally long waits and family separation....still thousands of kids separated from their parents and officials have no idea where they moved the kids to). |
Any type of barrier.
Exact numbers are not known. Hmmm. Surrendered and eventually asked for asylum. Hmmm. Most analysts say. The experts again? Hmmm. Same type of people who've been telling us the world was doomed because of climate change way back, who weren't wrong, obviously... just made poor calculations due to lack of info, who now again know the world is over in 12 years if we don't do something right now?
So it's America's fault they just won't let everyone walk right into the country uninterrupted? Maybe America needs to borrow more and add more debt just to make it easier for immigrants to enter the country and instantly be completely taken care of? Thousands of kids used as pawns to cross the border?
Last edited by EricHiggin - on 14 March 2019
