Global Hardware 22 December 2018

[Bofferbrauer2]

colafitte said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Yes, it's possible. Very much so, in fact.

Those countries are where the Playstation is making Sonyland actually a thing. If you just add the big 3 together, then Switch will be pretty close to the PS4 (600K difference, mostly from Germany as UK and France mostly cancel each other out) - yet with all the other countries PS4 will be far in front. Without those countries the PS4 wouldn't be dominating the continent nearly as much.

It's also where the PS4 sales were mostly dropping compared to last year, since Japan is mostly stable and US even potentially up compared to last year. Nintendo has possibly taken over some market share from Sony there.

It's not "very much" possible at all.

UK, France are not Sonyland by any means. Germany, Spain, Italy are far better examples of that. We don't know Germany numbers either but Germany has been always, alongside Spain, the best market for PS4 (marketshare i mean). So i seriously doubt Switch suddenly is going to grow more there than in UK or France.

And by the, way, i think you did not understand correctly what i meant with EU numbers. If UK, FR and GE are 20-25% growth, and they're basically 65-70% of the market sales in Europe, that means that if Europe as a whole is a 35%, the 30-35% of the rest of Europe must be a lot more than a 35% growth, and there is no info in Spain or Italy (next 2 bigger markets in Europe) saying something like this either, so Netherlands, Portugal, Austria, Sweden, .... is practically impossible that they make the difference.

I think you didn't understand me correctly. I was saying that it's not the big 3 that make Sonyland, but all the smaller countries taken together. My first sentence was probably too ambiguous for that to be clear. 

@bolded: That's where you are dead wrong. they barely even represent half of Europe anymore, safe for Xbox (almost 1.2M out of 1.7M total this year by VGC numbers). For Sony, they are 3.1M out of 7.2M total sold this year, while for the Switch it's 2.5M out of 4.5M. Hence why I said Switch is growing there in the smaller European countries while the PS4 had the bulk of their losses there when compared to last year sales, there's much more growth there than most people realize.