AngryLittleAlchemist said:
What examples are there where it only makes sense to have white people in a sitcom? And i'm not talking about ones where some random city has a 1:230 minority population, I mean one's where it makes sense thematically? There's not a lot that's exactly unique to that experience and that's been done a thousand times before. Notice too that you start off your argument talking purely about comedies that make sense with having one ethnicity, which is a very general sentiment that can be shared among all groups, yet quickly change to talking about whites specifically. Is that because sitcoms that predominantly feature one ethnicity in there cast are actually pretty popular right now? With Blacked and Straight Off The Boat? What you are describing here is not really "discrimination", it's artistic freedom. And this is why the idea of giving an inch and taking a mile works both for sides. You simultaneously highlight how shows which are freshly created are somehow considered "whitewash" just for featuring an all white cast, but then mention how it's "positive discrimination" or "racism" if a production team makes a show and envisions specific races in each role. Those two statements contradict each other, because both highlight the artistic values at play (having an all white-cast and having a multi-racial cast) that can easily be discredited as racist or white-washing in some way. You can try to justify it as the white cast being "more realistic", but that doesn't really change the ends. And no, just because a decision is made by a casting director, does not mean the decision should be discredited. I doubt you'd be saying the same thing if a writer of a book created characters with specific ethnicity, because to do so would be to put into question artistic expression as a whole. Well ... in a TV production, or movie production, or game production ... multiple individuals make the decisions, because it's not realistic for one persons vision to carry the creation of an entire show. |
fuck my life jump straight onto the fact that I picked a white sitcom as an example,
Here's a 90s sitcom family
7:0
early 00s
5:1
Spin off of the same series started in 2017
3:3
Like I said, not every group of a certain colour naturally has friends of the contrasting colour, it has gotten to the point where strictly one ethnicity shows such as the way fresh prince was made are becoming rarer and rarer, which is a shame because lots of shows now especially aimed at the teenage audience give off the image of everyone gets along and everyone is treated the same because we're all the same... Fresh Prince didn't do that at all, there is a fantastic episode I still recall 20+ years since it aired where Will was driving one of the familys cars and got pulled over by a white cop, Black teen, really rich fancy car, arrest for suspected GTA, it's a damn powerful message which is spat through gritted teeth at the cop when confronted by Uncle Phil (RIP James Avery) when he directly tells him that situation should never have happened had Will been white and not to BS about it being any other way.
Missing the after scene after but Carlton is under the innocent impression that stuff went by the book but here's the Script from imdb if you care, like I said... for a silly sitcom from the 90s it was pretty heavy hitting.
Phil and Carlton in House downstairs
Philip Banks: Carlton, it's late. lt's a school day tomorrow, son.
Carlton Banks: Yeah, okay, Dad. lt was awfully nice of Mr. Furth to help us out. l'll have to write him a thank-you note.
Philip Banks: lt shouldn't have happened in the first place, son. Good night.
Carlton Banks: Dad, if you were a policeman and you saw a car driving two miles an hour, wouldn't you stop it?
Philip Banks: l asked myself that question the first time l was stopped. Good night, son.
[leaves the room]
Carlton Banks: [to himself] l would stop it.
Upstairs Will and Carlton continue
William 'Will' Smith: Yo, Carlton.
Carlton Banks: Yeah?
William 'Will' Smith: Those cops were just doing their jobs?
Carlton Banks: Will, don't get all bent out of shape.
William 'Will' Smith: Man, you ain't learn nothing this weekend, did you?
Carlton Banks: I most certainly did. Always bring a map.
William 'Will' Smith: What?
Carlton Banks: If we would have a map, we wouldn't have had to drive two miles an hour trying to find a freeway entrance and we wouldn't have been stopped.
William 'Will' Smith: Oh, ok, ok. I get it now. We were stopped because we were driving too slow. Yeah, we were breaking the slowness limit. Oh, ok, well you see, I've never heard of that law before, but I did hear this other law. It's called the "if you see a black guy driving anything but a burnt-out Pinto, you better stop him because he stole it" law. Yeah, I've heard that one. Oh, but see, I thought it was the black guy law when in actuality, it was the slowness limit law. Oh, thank you for sharing that with me, Carlton. Good night.
I'm just saying that with sitcoms and those 6pm teen shows all turning into ethnic mixing bowl where everyone gets along the opportunities for episodes and shows like this to happen get diminished because you're in a make believe land where every white male has a black female friend and visa versa.
if you meant "Fresh off the Boat" not Straight off the Boat btw I've not seen the series but of the 88 episodes talked about on IMDB https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1908148/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7 this very white actor is in 81 of them, she also appears in a fair amount (but not all) of the cast shots from google images.
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