Global Hardware 1 December 2018

[TheBlackNaruto]

xMetroid said:

TheBlackNaruto said:

So you are in agreement that the PS4 will still be solid next year lol. Doing over 16m in the 6th year on the market would be VERY good. But I am thinking 14-16m for the year. But a $199 pricedrop plus some nice 2019 titles. Yeah I am thinking the PS4 will have a solid 6th year. Easily passing the 100 million mark imo.

Actually the 5 year argument IS NOT stupid by any means. Especially when pushing 90mil sold. It makes it just that much more impressive that it is still going so strongly. And actually you DO sell less going over the years lol. One of those years just happens to be a peak year. You can't keep selling more and more forever. Eventually you reach saturation and run out of customers. So no the 5yr argument is not stupid at all. Especially after staying the same price for so long.

I think his comment was un-called for but let's not pretend the 5yr argument is not valid. And that takes NOTHING away from the Switch which is also doing amazing. And will do even better next year!!! And as I stated to someone else. Being in its strongest month, still being the hottest/newest console on the market, coming off two of the biggest games in Nintendo history it SHOULD be destroying all everything else imo. I am again expecting BIG things for the Switch for Nov like well over 2million in the US alone!

Well it depends on which circumstances. My point is the PS4 peaked at it's 4th year and last year people were using the same ass arguement. "OMG Ps4 is 4 year and outselling the Switch that's embarrassing" while Switch was outselling PS4's first year, where consoles are lacking games/bundles and are full priced. The thing is, console don't peak during their first year and go on to gradually sell less every year. Switch isn't peaking and PS4 peaked last year. PS4 is UP yoy this week but down from a several margin for the whole year, that's an isolate case and the numbers might just be overestimated... 

Yes Switch will probably be up Yoy next year, and it is up 130k this week and was up really significantly during BF so yes the Pokémon effect is on. Although, Let's go is far from doing new games numbers, this is more of a reboot/remake. Smash is also not even out yet so it will destroy the other consoles once it's the actual numbers related to it. 

The point is, Switch might outsell these PS4 numbers when it will hit it's fifth year, we never know. That's why the "Switch is new AND Ps4 is 5 year old" argument is off, cause again, Switch could be far from peaking and PS4 is down a little from a peaking year, so it's just irrelevant when comparing to new consoles. Sure it's amazing that it is still selling well after 5 years, but doesn't mean new consoles should outsell it while it's being cheaper, has more games and has been making it's name for several years while a new system needs to make it's way still.

Trust me I understand what you are saying COMPLETELY. And IMO I think the Switch is doing AMAZING and again will get even better next year. And yeah I am not one of those people that say that the Switch should always be number one. Those people saying all that stuff about this is embarrassing for the Switch etc were silly if you ask me. But no sillier than the other side saying the Switch would destroy everything this year and how it would be a bloodbath etc.  And no of course the Switch is not peaking this year it has way more in it! And yes when the Smash weeks release I expect it to destroy EVERYTHING for sure. Especially the PS4 which has absolutely NO deals this month which is mind boggling to me but hey more revenue matters to them I guess.

And yes the Switch might outsell these PS4 numbers when it hits its fifth year. We don't know but for the numbers we have NOW we can say that for the PS4 in the fifth year on the market it is doing extremely well. Especially at the pace that it has been selling at. And it puts it even more into perspective when looking at it compared to the Switch right now. Which again takes NOTHING from the Switch but does show how strong the PS4 still is especially to still be $299. Which is not cheaper than the Switch but the same price. But you are correct the PS4 does have more games and has made a STRONG name for itself.