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EricHiggin on 18 December 2018
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thismeintiel said:
shikamaru317 said:

Considering 2 of them are streaming boxes it shouldn't be too hard to explain the differences to people. Just name them smartly and clearly label on the boxes which ones are for streaming and which are normal consoles, and make sure to put 1080p on the Lockhart box and 4K on the Anaconda box. The goal seems to be making Xbox more like the Surface family, where they have the Surface, Surface Prop, Surface Book, Surface Laptop, Surface Studio, and Surface Hub product lines.

Both PS5 and Anaconda seem to be using Navi, as Brad Sams said that Anaconda is using a Ryzen 2 CPU and a "next-gen" AMD GPU. The next graphics generation for AMD after the current Vega is Navi. https://wccftech.com/xbox-scarlett-4k-60fps/ The report that said that Sony was designing Navi with AMD was never confirmed and I'm not even sure which insider leaked it. Brad Sams on the other hand has very good sources at MS, leaking multiple MS products over the years. Anaconda is either using Navi, or MS is working with AMD to design a fully custom AMD GPU rather than a semi-custom AMD GPU based on the PC Navi line. 

You're going to have 4 different SKUs, mostly likely with 4 different prices, with a bunch of writing (a mixture of 2 or more of these, "No Disc Drive" "Disc Games Do Not Work" "Streaming/Download Only" "Disc Drive Included" "Disk Games Work" "1080p Only" "4K Gaming") on the front of the box so as not to mislead consumers.  Then next to it you have the nice and simple all in one solution that is the PS5, just a picture of the console with minimal writing.  Which do you honestly think the average consumer is most likely to choose?

We'll have to wait and see exactly what "next-gen" actually means.  As for the leak, apparently it was multiple sources in AMD.  They say that was the reason that Raja Koduri, the person in charge of Vega development, left.  AMD was focusing more on making Navi with/for Sony, than the Vega line.  Which, if true, makes sense for AMD to do, frankly.  The PS4 is going to sell 100M+, which means 100M+ APUs sold for AMD.  PS5 is likely to repeat that success.

Stores may not want to sell discless versions, so you may only see a couple models in the stores, and those would be the typical console versions. I'm sure on the XB site they would have it all laid out with each being clearly it's own thing, whether by name or whatever, so to go online and order that model your kid said they wanted, shouldn't be a big deal for the most part.

If MS will have 3 or 4 models, I would imagine PS will have at least 2 so they can compete on price. Both having typical configurations, just one cheaper model and one 4k. They could even do a similar thing and make Pro the base model, with a Ryzen upgrade, sell it for less than the new XB1X, but for more than the streaming box, and try to upsell on the value proposition. Have the new Pro be the base/streaming model, and 4k be the standard edition PS5.

That way you would have 4 consoles between the brands in the next gen section of the store by the end of 2020, which wouldn't be any different than now. You would also have PS4 Slim somewhere in the mix, and discless XB1S for at least a few more years into next gen.