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NightlyPoe said:
Final-Fan said:

Ahem, yes.  Yes, the fact that you pointed out mail-in fraud as a potential problem is what I was referring to when I said SpokenTruth "validated your previously-stated position" to some extent.  However, in this thread it appears to me that you have focused on defending laws purporting to protect against in-person voter fraud, and you have argued that such fraud is enough of a problem to justify the laws and the burden they impose.  

I have not focused on anything.  I have a concern about voting fraud in many areas, including absentee ballots.  In your post, you focus on mass attempts at voter fraud.  Yes, this does seem to be an easier way to do it.  However, voter fraud around the margins makes a difference as well.  So, an argument over which is bigger is not really one I'm interested in happening because I don't wish for either to happen.

In fact, you went so far as to say "voter suppression laws are not a thing", contradicting the verdicts in court cases such as the North Carolina one with the infamous "surgical precision" line.

Ah yes, the 4th Circuit.  You do know that the 4th Circuit and the DC Circuit are the crown jewels in Democrat obstruction efforts on Bush's judicial nominees.  Literally just 10 years ago, the 4th Circuit had a reputation as the most conservative circuit in the country.  Now it is one of the most liberal.  That case was decided by a Clinton and two Obama appointees.

Anyway, I'll point out that North Carolina actually won at the district level and may well have one at the Supreme Court if the case had gone through.  No matter what the case, though, simply pointing to one line by one judge in one decision and marking it as proof that what that one person's opinion is would be absolutely true is itself a folly.  Particularly when there doesn't appear to be any new election law you can pass that doesn't run into claims that it disproportionately affects minorities.

So if you disagree with the judge what do you think is the reason the republicans got voting trend data based on ethnicity?



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