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Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:

No I think you will see bigger upgrades than things like 3DS XL and New 3DS and 2DS ... those types of things don't excite consumers. None of the 3DS revisions caused a notable increase in sales for the 3DS, whereas XBox One X has caused a very noticable increase in XBox One sales and PS4 Pro is helping the PS4 with higher than anticipated sales for being in the back half of its hardware cycle, so much so that Sony had to revise sales expectations up.

"Pro" models have been helping Apple and Samsung sell more phones and tablets for years too.

People like the premium model, I'm talking bigger than things like 3DS XL, PS4 Slim, XBox One S, or even New 3DS.

A New 3DS type revision for Switch alone is not really gonna lit many people's world on fire. It's 2019 almost, you gotta bring more to the table than that. "It's slimmer and has a few new features" doesn't cut it, it's not 2004 anymore. 

There will be a slimmer/smaller/more power efficient Switch sure, but that won't be the only model Nintendo sells, a Pro model is gonna happen eventually too IMO, one that has a significant upgrade. And Sony and MS will also release new model PS5s and XBox 2s 3-4 years into that cycle. It's simply going to become the new normal and it'll become more like the PC side where generations become basically blurred.

New 3DS had solid upgrade, but those things didnt exited consumers because we were still talking about low power in any case at end, despite its solid upgrade. I disagree, New 3DS is one of reasons why 3DS maintain good sales, you can bet that without revisions 3DS sales would be much worse. Xbox X had good effect on sales because people were buying X to have best system currently available for their 4K TVs, Pro has much less effect on PS4 sales than X has for Xbox.

What you keep ignoring that despite Pro models all apps and games still works on weaker Apple and Samsung devices. Same is for PS4 Pro and XB1 X, and for around 99% games will be same for Switch in any case.

Base is still selling much better in any case than Pro model.

Switch Pro wont made also people on fire, PS4 Pro also didnt made people on fire, if current Switch didnt set on fire some people, New Switch or Switch Pro want do also. It will boost sales offcourse in some degree in any case, but its not like we getting brand new console that will make people that didnt had any intrest in Switch before will Pro make them buying one. Cheaper/low price point Switch would have higher effect on sales than potental Switch Pro.

It will be multiply revisions for Switch in any case, but you totally wrong if you think that plenty of 3rd partys would want to release game just for on revision and where most of Switch install base couldnt play. Around 99% of games will be still be playable through hole revisions in any case.

 

Pemalite said:

Overwatch needs to be on Switch. Missed opportunity in my opinion.
Would be good if they had crossplay with Xbox and Playstation too.

I am pretty sure it will be, they several times said they considering Overwatch for Switch, probably it will be E3 announcement same Rocket League and Fortnite were.

PS4 Pro is probably in the range of being 30%+ of PS4 sales which is not a small amount. In Japan PS4 Pro and regular PS4 models are now selling almost 1:1. 

XBox One X has caused a huge shift in XBox One year over year sales and probably is also selling 1:1 or better than the base model despite being the most expensive game hardware SKU out there. 

There's simply not much of a chance Nintendo isn't going to follow suit. Not only do these models sell well to the point that they're causing upward trends in both the PS4 and XB1, they're also more profitable long term too, there was a report that Sony makes more money off the Pro model, because the cost of chips come down in price relatively quickly, but the higher price point then nets you a higher take home profit. 

As for whether 3rd parties would make a few games Pro only, I think it could happen if the system is cheap enough to port to. If its something that isn't a big damn pain in the ass to port and has a reasonable amount of power where they can outsource the port or have it done with a small team, probably for some titles you will see that done. Take2 just released a console quality "patch" for NBA2K19 on iPad that gives the game PS4/XB1 tier graphics and runs at 2K+ resolution at 60 frames per second. They did that for a version of the game that basically can only run on the new iPad Pro which is like $800. Doubling or tripling a mobile chip simply opens up more possibilities for game experiences. 

You will get your New 3DS/2DS etc. style revisions for Switch sure. But you will also get a Pro model. Nintendo is not ignoring that revenue stream and it's an option that's proven itself to be very popular with consumers and helps the bottom line of Sony and MS, Nintendo isn't going to ignore that. Looking at how Apple operates there was already the notion to do something like that anyway, but Sony/MS doing it with home consoles basically sealed the deal. It's not an either/or thing, the PS4 and XBox One have also gotten "smaller/cheaper" revisions like the PS4 Slim and XBox One S. It doesn't stop a Pro model from happening. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 02 December 2018