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DélioPT said:
EricHiggin said:

If the PS5 is $500, then it doesn't matter when they announce. That's expensive enough that they won't have to worry that much about people changing their minds about buying a PS4. Most people who will be buying a PS4 holiday 2019, will be people who literally couldn't afford anything higher than a $199 price point, maybe even with a game or two bundled.

The one main way I see PS having any kind of a problem, is if MS launches Scarlet late 2019 for $400, with the PS5 being $500. That seems pretty unlikely though because I think for $500 PS is going to make sure you get your monies worth without question, and unless Scarlet is heavily subsidized, a $400 XB in 2019 won't be enough of a jump for the XB crowd. With XB1X still being relevant at that time, and being at least $100 cheaper, many will upgrade to XB1X instead, and some will stay on XB1X. This doesn't really hurt PS in terms of next gen, as long as Scarlet isn't gaining ground.

Do you really believe that, after the backlash that Sony got in 2006 and MS in 2013, that they will go for 500$?
I can't say it's impossible, but the chances of that happening or slim to none.

The 400$ price tag worked perfectly for them.
You can bet that they will do their very best to do the same.

Sony sold more than 80 million consoles with a price point above 300$. How big of a market is that that can only afford a 199$ price tag?
Those days of the magical 199$ price point are gone. Consumers are used to higher prices, now.

That 100$ price difference between XB1X and Scarlett means choosing between a old console and a new console; a console with now dedicated games versus a console that will have a new library of next gen games (from a bare minimum perspective of what next gen will be).
I think the choice to move to Scarlett won't be that "hard".

$500 was way too much in 2006, and it was borderline in 2013. Lot's of people assumed with XB1 being $500, that the PS4 would also be, especially with it's specs. When people found out it was going to be $100 less, the Earth shook. PS4 likely could have gotten away with being $500. It probably would have taken longer before sales ramped up, but it also would have likely meant MS wouldn't have pushed the XB1 platform changes as quickly as they did either, which should mean PS ends up with similar sales as today, just less inertia and higher profits/no subsidizing earlier on.

Lot's of poor people on this planet, and some of them like to game. Just look at PS2 sales. Part of the reason it was able to continue to sell as well and as long as it did, was because of the constant reduction of the hardware entrance cost.

MS has made it pretty clear XB1 is an ecosystem and a family of hardware and software devices going forward. They have also made it clear they want FC and BC since they will no longer have gens. Now that might mean either 720p gaming on XB1/S, or it could mean they drop that console and make XB1X the base. Either way, Scarlet only games seem like they won't be happening at this point, or at least not until a Scarlet X is announced 3 or 4 years later when XB1X is possibly dropped.

Pro has only been $100 more than PS4, and look at it's sales. If spending another $100 to have the very best was so easy and such a no brainer, why is PS4 outselling Pro 5 to 1? If MS decides to drop the XB1 family altogether, and moves on to another gen, it's just another reason to question MS once again. They've made it pretty clear they wouldn't be doing that, so they say, and have convinced plenty of people to dish out $200-$500 for the XB1X for that reason. To drop that model completely and ask for another $400 or $500 for Scarlet seems like a really bad idea, unless they are going to give one heck of an upgrade deal to those owners, or wait until 2021 so the XB1X has been given a somewhat reasonable half gen life time.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.