Why is the Switch still not getting big games from 3rd parties? October edition

[potato_hamster]

RolStoppable said:

potato_hamster said:

Is this a language thing? Nintendo "lightening up" doesn't mean "third parties hold grudges". Not even a little bit. These companies aren't discriminating against Nintendo at all. "Third parties are hesitant to invest in a platform that proves time and time again ti's difficult to develop for and make money on. It's much easier to make money on Sony and Microsoft platforms. They're much easier to work with, they actually support third parties. It requires less effort, less money and less dicking around playing patty-cake bullshit to make a game for a Sony or Microsoft platform.  That's a fact. And yes, it is Nintendo's problem that they continuously fail to deliver a platform that requires so much work to port multi-platform games on. Even the publishers that are supporting Nintendo like Ubisoft and Bethesda are only releasing a fraction of their multi-platform titles. Why? Because it's not worth the effort.

Those restrictions on limiting the number of games of censoring content to a rather extreme degree didn't make the games better. All it did was make publishers more creative and create new publishing labels to appease Nintendo. You're still not understanding that Nintendo were such a pain in the ass that the first chance that developers had to put their games on a competitive platform almost all of them jumped ship and abandoned Nintendo as a main development platform overnight. Did EA and Activision or Squaresoft or Capcom or Konami start flooding  Sony  and Sega platforms with garbage titles? Nope. They just closed up all the pseudo-publishing labels Nintendo forced them to make and kept on trucking. But keep perpetuating that myth.

You said "it's a bit late," implying that it doesn't matter what Nintendo does, games won't be made. Considering that Switch is the console with the fastest growing library in history, it's evident that there's no general third party problem here. It's only a select few third parties who don't want to bother, the rest is laughing to the bank and preparing more Switch games.

You are rambling at this point. I clearly talked about American third parties and you mention Squaresoft, Capcom and Konami in your counter-argument. Your other two examples (EA and Activision) did release a lot of garbage titles for the Genesis and PS1. You'll have a hard time finding EA and Activision games on lists of the best Genesis and PS1 games. Nevermind that the NES was never the main development platform of EA, so jumping ship doesn't apply in their case.

No. Stop making assumptions about what I'm saying. If you're reading comprehension isn't good enough, don't try. "It's a bit late" means it's now unreasonable to expect third parties to give the same support to Nintendo platforms as they do Sony and Microsoft platforms. It's not third party developers fault that Nintendo has continuous failed to give them a platform that a) requires no more work to port a multi-platform game to than the competition b) can expect a similar return on investment as the competition. A strong userbase is not enough to justify a strong investment, as the Wii demonstrated time and time again. Nintendo has to make developers make games for their platform because it's an easy choice to make, not because its a hard one.

Rambling? You're the one that narrows the goalposts so you can dance around as if everything is merry in Nintendoland, and all of the Japanese developers are counting their yen like Switch is a licence to print money. Meanwhile in reality, let's take a closer look at what Japanese developers aren't putting on the Switch. Let's start with the most obvious "laugh to the bank" choice as they have made millions and millions off of a franchise that has thrived on Nintendo platforms in the past: Monster Hunter World. I can play that on PS4, Xbox One, and PC. Yet curiously... not found on the Switch. How about Devil May Cry 5? Kingdom Hearts 3? Yakuza? Persona 5? Nier:Automata? Final Fantasy XV? Resident Evil VII? Soul Calibur VI? How come games that would require a serious effort to port to Switch aren't getting ported?

Ohh right, it must be those Japanese developers and their bias against Nintendo.

Last edited by potato_hamster - on 17 October 2018