‘Rape Culture’ Is A MYTH | Change My Mind

[Azuren]

Qwark said:

Runa216 said:
The problem with many arguments about 'rape' and the burden of proof being on the victim is that....short of having the foresight to record it or coaxing a confession out of the rapist, there's virtually no proof of rape. It can't exist. This burden you put on the victim is nearly impossible to fulfil because rape is unlike other forms of abuse.

When you're assaulted on the street, there could be bruises or cuts or abrasions. When you're abused on the street you can call for help and scream 'I'm being attacked'. When you're hurt in that way, there is physical evidence that it happens.

When it comes to rape, even the more egregious examples often take place alone, or in a party while drunk, 1. or with someone you thought loved you. You might not even know that you're being taken advantage of until later and even the strongest of men and women don't want the vulnerability that comes with yelling for help while being raped. Oftentimes the one being abused is not under their own volition.

And unless the rapist is fucking you with a cheese grater or forcing a carrot into you, the chances of there being physical evidence of rape is pretty slim. Sure, you can get a rape kit and prove they ejaculated inside you, but that's really all it can truly prove. Even consensual sex often results in some tissue damage (Some people like it rough; this is just a fact of a loving relationship.)

1. So what do you propose? In a world full of people like you who put all the burden of proof on the victims and are clearly eager to discredit them, what do you propose is adequate proof of rape? What action do you suggest that can prove rape while also not exposing the victims to senseless and extraneous levels of scrutinization. This isn't like theft or murder or assault, where there's clearly defined proof, so what is it you propose? 

I genuinely want to hear an answer, because all I see is a bunch of [redacted] who don't understand consent lashing out because they fear being accused of rape and thus trying to discredit victims with flawed, unfair rhetoric.

So I ask again: If the burden of proof is exclusively on the victim, what do you propose as a reasonable, realistic piece of evidence to back up their claims? What do you suggest doing in the event of rape that would fulfil all your unreasonable demands. You do that, and I'll easily show you a dozen examples of why it doesn't work, why many rapes still go unreported, and why even the reported ones are still unprosecuted.

Don't be a part of the problem by perpetuating the status quo, be a part of the solution by helping to find and enact positive change.

1. That's not rape and not illegal since the sexual acts where consensual at the time. 

2.Whilst unsexy and not private as fuck the best way to definitely prove consent is give digital consent  before having sex trough a heavily encryptie digi-d or a governments account. Any sexual act in which this consent was not given is rape and a DNA  test can easily prove that. 

Guilty by accusation isn't a sollution just a new problem. Every sexual act leaves some sort of DNA, so that should be found at the very least. 

I agree with this first part. You can't retroactively rescind your consent.