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setsunatenshi said:
eva01beserk said:

Like I said before, these people have no argument. They express their feeling but no actual facts when they have nothing of worth to say. 

I also believe its a strategy the feminist started using that Since men cant experience what they feel during rape, then they cant argue with them about how they think its worst thing in the world. Even worst than murder. Its a way to shut down an argument by saying basically they cant weigh in since they dont have the experience. Like the no uterus no opinion on abortion thing.  

I was kind of with you on the argument until you brought in the abortion thing to misrepresent the pro choice principle. It's not like you can't have an opinion on abortion, but the principle of self determination overwhelms your opinions on it. It's 100% a woman's choice how she intends to use her body and no one can impose the physical drain of carrying anything within her body against her will.

 

Her body, her choice, period. 

Kind of depends on what rights you give to a foetus. If you see it as a self aware human being with a reactive nervous system you could argue that this fetus should share the same rights as any other human. I agree the male who inpregnated het should not have a say in this. But the legal system definitely should  have a say in this, same goes with Euthanasie. 

The juridical argument is a very solid argument against abortion. Since it does not question what a women should do, but which rights a self aware unborn has. Abortion is in fact killing a human being from 13 weeks and onward since it is actually self aware.

I am pro choice until 13 weeks, but after that period aborting a child is basically murder. From that point you don't kill a few cells which are building towards something, but you are in fact killing something that could be described as an individual.

Nobody should be allowed to kill another self aware human being willingly (even if it is a foetus). Whether or not said person is a woman or not is irrelevant. If a guy causes a woman to misscariage, by an act if violenence hé also should be charged for killing another human being. 

Last edited by Qwark - on 08 October 2018

Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar