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Pemalite said: 
Bofferbrauer2 said:
I'd say 2021

With the hardware flaws in the Tegra chips I'm sure Nintendo asks NVidia to iron these out first, and as a result should recieve a true custom Tegra chip

My expectation is somewhere around this:

TSMC 7nm process (Nintendo tends to use an older, proven process and hardware, by that time 7nm and what I write below hopefully fits that bill to them)
4-6 Cortex A75 CPU @ 1.5-1.7 Ghz
384 Turing Cuda Cores @400 (Handheld)-800Ghz (Docked) or 256 Pascal Cuda Cores @600-1200Ghz
8GB LPDDR4-2666, 128bit connection (the LP variant isn't specified higher than that, sadly)
128GB Flash Memory
5000-6000 mAh internal battery

In 7nm, a configuration close to that should get close to XBO S power in docked mode and slightly more powerful in handheld mode than the docked mode now without consuming more, and the stronger battery allows for longer game sessions in handheld mode.

Doubt it. The costs would be pretty big for a revision like that. I think Nintendo will just continue to use off the shelf components. Aka. Pascal.

Besides... The RAM will blow the costs out, Turing Cores isn't going to happen.
I also think you meant Mhz, not Ghz.
7nm will also be fairly expensive compared to a much more mature 16/14/12nm process, especially as capacity is freed up on those nodes as AMD/Intel/nVidia/Apple/Qualcomm etc' move to newer nodes.

Now if they intend to make a "premium" console along the lines of the Playstation 4 Pro/Xbox One X where cost isn't going to be a big factor, then sure. But Turing is still unlikely to happen.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Sure, an Tegra X2 could do the trick, but considering the inherent massive flaws in the chips (just google Spectre and Meltdown) I'm damn sure Nintendo will want new hardware with those flaws eliminated, something that takes a lot of time to implement. Late 2020 is therefore the earliest possible unless Nintendo really accepts the X2 "as is" for a Switch hardware upgrade

The flaws can be mitigated to a certain degree.
Really depends how many resources Nintendo wants to throw at the problem.


The flaws can be mitigated, but it would cost the X2 so much power it wouldn't be much of an upgrade anymore, hence why I went with a custom chip. In 7nm, that chip shouldn't be any bigger than the X1 in the Switch, which is produced in 28nm, which means production costs would be about the same. Keep in mind I said 2021, by then the 7nm process should have matured enough, though there's still the possibility of a 10/12nm process (16/14nm would just be too outdated by then even by Nintendo standards imo).

RAM prices are falling again, and by 2021, DDR5 should be arriving. So I doubt 8GiB DDR4 by then would be more expensive than 4GiB when the Switch launched. While I didn't precise it here (I did so before in another thread), that upgraded Switch+ would be released at the same 299$ pricetag as the original Switch in my book.

And yeah, I meant Mhz. Muscle Memory, I suppose.