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sundin13 said:
NightlyPoe said:

I somewhat agree and that's more or less my official position.  However, the counterargument is valid as well.  What does it mean when anyone who submits their name to the Supreme Court can be defeated with unconfirmed and unconfirmable charges?  What does it mean for future nominees and their willingness to put their families through this?

And we're not talking about equal share here.  This is typical of the treatment of conservative appointments.  I cannot tell you how many nominees have been smeared with baseless charges of racism and such over the years even for lower courts.

While it is a political post and it does not take a criminal conviction to drop a nomination, the consequences of removing Kavanaugh are not as simple as moving onto the next nominee.  We will have established the Kavanaugh Precedent.  The real world result of which would be that any person who may or may not have known you in your past has veto power over your nomination and will wreck your reputation in the process.

I find it persuasive that such a system, particularly one uniquely stacked against Republican nominees, is not tenable.

The "Kavanaugh Precedent" relies on a large number of credible false accusers. While it is theoretically possible, I don't believe that it is practically likely enough to take the risk that the accusations in this particular case are true.

And of course, as you said "the counterargument is valid as well".  By plainly and visibly decrying to the country that if you accuse a powerful man of sexual assault, you will have every detail of your life picked apart, your family threatened, you will be shamed, doubted and accused of all manner of horrible deeds, you are telling victims to keep silent. By telling them that unless you have a written and notarized confession, you will not be believed and nothing will be done, you are telling them to keep silent. 

The role of the court is to protect the rights of the people. While explicitly that job is performed in the courtroom, I think this is equally impactful, though I suppose it is too late to do much about that one...

Its not telling them to be silent at all. Its telling them that if you're credible and can corroborate a case against the accused, you have a voice.

Right now the narrative being pushed is ''Believe all victims''. Which is extremely wrong. Its being pushed that women should be believed no matter what they say just because they're women. It sets up and gives women power  that we can say whatever we want,whenever we want,even if we cant prove said accusation is true and we have to believed no matter what. This will effect both men and women long term if its allowed to stand and continue. 



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