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HylianSwordsman said:

Lol, the cure for cancer is definitely more important than one protest, yes. And I'm suggesting you don't believe her, because you don't. You keep saying you don't. She told you who did it, you don't believe her. The system has no set order that witnesses go in, it could easily go Kavanaugh first. He knows what he's been accused of, he's just there to tell his side of the story. If he says he never met her before in his life, and she credibly refutes that, then he's caught in a lie. If he says he was at the party, but gives a credible explanation of what really happened that throws her story into doubt, and she can't back her story up, then he probably wouldn't be convicted by a jury. Of course, this isn't a jury, it's a congress, and really, it doesn't matter because Kavanaugh could confess to rape but ask to be seated on the court and the Republicans would do it, and Ford could say "sorry guys I was just kidding" and Kavanaugh wouldn't get a single Dem vote because even the red state dems have reasons around his opinions on campaign finance and the role and scope of the executive branch to vote against him. Really, though, if after both have given the testimony, there's even a hint that maybe he's a rapist, confirming him would damage the court's integrity, and he shouldn't be seated. Of course, all this could have been avoided if Trump nominated a different judge from his list. He had a lady lined up that would undercut most of the Dems arguments right now, and almost certainly wouldn't have even an alleged history of sexual crime or misconduct, and she would have been confirmed before September with several red state Dem votes, but Trump wanted the guy who would vote in any Mueller related case that he couldn't be indicted or even investigated as a sitting president because it's too "distracting". It's his fault we're in this mess arguing whether to believe a woman when she says who raped her when you know if this didn't have political consequences we'd all be much more likely to take her account seriously. They keep saying she should have come out in high school, and it's true that if a regular, unknown high school girl accused a regular, not-destined-for-the-supreme-court high school guy of rape, she'd have an easier time, but a)it doesn't always feel that simple when you're a high school girl and b)that's precisely why Republicans come out looking so scummy here, because everyone knows they're only ignoring her complaints because of politics (and no, "hearing her out" is still ignoring her complaints if after hearing what she has to say they ignore it as several have already pledged to do no matter what she says), even as they accuse her of only coming out now because of politics, as though there were any better time to find your courage and speak out about your rapist than when he's about to gain the power to affect a lot of women. And again, Trump could end this at any time by nominating another candidate. He has several that could be confirmed by year's end or even pre-election if he wanted if he would just withdraw this asshole and nominate say, Amy Coney Barrett, who would sail through confirmation and probably instantly become the conservative Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But no, Trump refuses to do that because he can't stand the thought of "losing" even though it wouldn't be an actual loss. He would just perceive it as one and as such is taking the whole country on a ride that needlessly creates conflict.

I simply believe in innocent until proven guilty as the law states. If she can prove it, and he can't disprove it, then there's no reason not to believe her.

I disagree that a female nominee would simply sail through. The Dems and left don't let anything Trump does just pass and sail through. She may not have to worry about sexual assault allegations and such, but to assume she passes unscathed, without having a few hurdles thrown at her would be like twilight zone. Knowing Trump, he may have even done this all on purpose, thinking ahead. It's looking like he may get the chance to nominate another candidate down the road, assuming Kavanaugh get's confirmed, so if he decides on a female then, and she does pass through rather easily, the Reps and Trump are no doubt going to point out how hard the Dems were on the male nominee and how easy their being on the female. So why the lack of equality? The left won't care for that but the right would eat it up.

While you have some saying it's just the left using political tactics, the right may very well be doing the same thing, one way or another. We'll see what happens Thursday I guess.