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DarthMetalliCube said:
Cool? What does this really prove? People buy poorly made entertainment all the time. Hell, look at all the pop, country, and rap music that constantly lights up the charts.

And apparently by many here Nintendo selling a crap ton of units in the Wii days "didn't count" because "casuals" or something.. But sales only matter when it confirms their biases I guess.

The series can go on to sell a gazillion copies for all I care. All I know is I found zero enjoyment in TLJ and that Star Wars simply no longer appeals to me, and lord knows I tried. Really I did. I WANTED to like this movie but I simply don't see it (other than the solid special effects/cinematography). Virtually everything else about it ranged from bland and boring to nearly unwatchable for me.

No-one's claiming The Last Jedi is the greatest movie ever - heck, I enjoyed it, but I'd still only place it roughly in the middle of the pack of all the Star Wars movies released to date - just disputing the idea that it was a massive failure because it grossed very slightly less than some people were predicting it would. The only way that a movie that's made more money than Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, and any MCU entry outside of Black Panther and the three Avengers movies can be considered a "failure" is if Disney are idiots who don't know what reasonable expectations are (which, hey, might very well be true, but I've not seen any solid evidence to confirm it is).

Neither am I claiming that all is right in the Star Wars universe - I just find it odd that people are holding The Last Jedi up as the poster boy for failure when Solo actually was an undeniable failure, and even then it made an amount at the box-office most Hollywood films can only dream of.