November 16th? This proves that Nintendo was indeed holding back release information during E3. There is no way this game's development did not extend to before E3. I keep telling people that Nintendo does not take E3 as seriously as the public and media would like. They have their own form of media and they are going to drop bombs on us at their discretion alone. Great pickup for Nintendo as well. I think this is the first mainline Civilization title to reach a console since the PS1 era (I could be wrong but I think I am right about that).
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