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Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

People have to understand that there is a different boss running SNY and the PS division now compared to when they were offering cross play. Different bosses run their departments differently and we can say that John and Ken are running SNY and PS somewhat differently then Andrew and Kaz. In the end, the real issue is MS and their lack of XB1 sales due to screwing up their launch, and following the same decision PS made with PS3, to offer cross play as a way to potentially gain more customers, and at the very least, win some over due to positive PR. MS has the right to offer cross play and complain all they want that PS won't join, but trying to influence other companies to purposely make decisions against their best interests is about as desperate as it comes and any person defending this should just live with their platform of choice, or add/change platforms.

You do notice, I am not talking about Cross Play.  I am talking about the practice of locking the account to the PS4 thus not allowing you to use the same account on a 3rd party game with another device.  That part of this whole issue is really the key, not Sony not wanting cross play.  Also, how is MS influencing other companies to support cross play.  I have no clue where you get that conclusion.  MS and Nintendo support cross play because it benefits them, no one is forcing Sony to do cross play.  If anything this probably was something developers have reached out to the different console makers more than any one console maker trying to force the others to comply.  Developers would love for cross play if all platforms supported it because it gives a much bigger player base for their games.  It can give more legs to games that do not sell well on different consoles.  Cross play in general is more for developers and gamers then it is for the console maker.  As a gamer why should I care about the companies politics especially money moves to force PS4 players to only use their console for a 3rd party game account you create.  I do not know about you but I have all the gaming systems.  If I want to play Fortnight on my phone, my switch, my PS4 or X1, why the hell would I want my account locked to the PS4 only.  Why should I care if this make sense for Sony to do because it keeps their market share somehow.  As soon as you start to think about a company protecting their marketshare more than you rights as a gamer is when you just become a tool of that company.

You can defend Sony not wanting cross play on their system but defending them on locking accounts to only their system is going on cult status.  I have purchase a Sony system since the PS1 and I will continue to purchase a system for as long as they have great games.  What I will not do is condom any practice Sony does because I purchase their console. This is a bad move no matter how you look at it as a gamer.  I guess if you are a fan of Sony you can look past this act but you only give them more leeway to do even more non consumer actions.  

I said influencing, not forcing. MS has been pushing this through interviews and social media. Ybarra just recently stuck his nose into PS's business and made it clear that they aren't listening to their fans and gamers. Maybe Mike should pay more attention to his own companies problems and then maybe he wouldn't have to worry about what he perceives to be issue's for others.

Want to know what else would be better for devs and pubs? A lot of things. Maybe MS should tweet about how PS should take a smaller slice of the pie when it comes to third party game sale profits. Maybe MS should be doing a lot more to get PUBG on PS4 asap for the devs sake...

You should care about a companies policies, because the PR and profit they make due to those policies, will help to make or break the next gen system. The PR/profit balance needs to be maintained for the best chance at success next gen. PS is doing a pretty good job of that overall.

As for 'what people want', how about this for example. You have two couples. One couple are swingers, the other couple are mainly exclusive, but are open to 'new experiences' from time to time. Both these couples meet. The swingers like them, the exclusives not so much. The swingers offer to swing, but the exclusives pass. The swingers go on social media and explain how horrible the exclusives are and how they should open up more for the good of everyone else. Who do you side with? I side with the exclusives. It's their body/console, so it's their choice what to do with it. If you don't respect that, then that's just too bad, and also questions your logic/humanity.

If PS doesn't want to allow cross play or cross accounts, but allows free to play games, that's their choice. If MS wants to allow cross play and cross accounts, but holds free to play games hostage behind a $60 online paywall, that's their choice.

Things don't exist simply for your sake. They exist for the owners/makers sake. If your lucky enough to be able to participate, then consider that a gift, not a privilege.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.