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Mr Puggsly said:
Errorist76 said:
If they’re most likely forced to sell the system at a loss anyway they might just lend it right away. I still think for that the monthly cost is a bit too high to be feasible.

You must not be doing the math.

$22-$35 a month is not a lot of money for the average person. We're talking about getting the console and access to many games (day one 1st party games included), that's a pretty good deal.

Also, the subscription services being lumped in means they're making a profit on the subscription services. That covers any losses on the hardware.

 

If you do the math it’s not that much of a deal and it’s not much different from a finance deal. 

 

Bofferbrauer2 said: 

For those who don't want to take out their calculators, it's 528$ total for the ONE S + XBL + GamePass, and 840$ for an ONE X + XBL + GamePass.

In other words, buying them separately seems a better deal to me, especially for the ONE X or when there's some discount.

They’re selling the X1S for 200,- sometimes and it will only get cheaper. It’s clever marketing...Bauernfängerei we call that in German.